Difference between .50 BMG and Russian 12.7

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    Difference between .50 BMG and Russian 12.7

    What's the difference between the US .50 caliber armor piercing rounds and the russian armor piercing round which i believe is the 12.7 mm.

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    .50 NATO = 12.7x99mm
    .50 SOVIET = 12.7x108mm (I think).
    "20,000 men, who strewed the ground in heaps and swathes. . ." ~ Lt Churchill, after the first use of the Maxim machinegun, 1898.
    "War, which used to be cruel and magnificent, has become cruel and squalid." ~ Churchill, on the H Bomb, 1952.

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    which one is more accurate and powerful?

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    Powerful would be the SOVIET, I don't know about accuracy, but would expect the NATO to win.
    "20,000 men, who strewed the ground in heaps and swathes. . ." ~ Lt Churchill, after the first use of the Maxim machinegun, 1898.
    "War, which used to be cruel and magnificent, has become cruel and squalid." ~ Churchill, on the H Bomb, 1952.

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    Yimmy is right, the Soviet round packs a little more punch.

    It's really hard to say who has the most accurate though. No one really uses .50 Match ammo. Canada uses handloads and USA uses Raufoss rounds for precision work, and the weapons are different as well.

    I've never heard of anyone scoping a DSHK and using it for sniping, but it would probably work just as well as the M2 does, using ball ammo in both.
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    There are two rifles that come to my mind when talking about the 12.7x108mm soviet stuff:

    OSV-96 and KSVK

    Both are rifles that use the round you mention and I'm sure the KSVK is used as an anti-material rifle and not as a sniper rifle.

    Just google the names and you'll should find some more info on the guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yimmy
    .50 NATO = 12.7x99mm
    .50 SOVIET = 12.7x108mm (I think).
    1mm off :P

    .50 BMG = 12.7X99mm

    .50 Soviet = 12.7X109mm
    Remington M-700 LTR 20" Fluted .308
    Leupold MK-4 3.5-10X40mm M-1 LR
    Leupold MK-4 Rings
    USO Base - 0 MOA
    Black Hills .308 175gr SMK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzzleblast
    I've never heard of anyone scoping a DSHK and using it for sniping, but it would probably work just as well as the M2 does, using ball ammo in both
    Muzz, make mine that one:
    http://www.world.guns.ru/machine/mg24-e.htm

    Although ol'e NSV is a big kick, too. Great against hidden targets. I could say that it killed more snipers that all counter-snipers did with their rifles.

    As for V-94 (many people use this old designation instead of OSV)...yuk, no match ammo. Hell, I bet it will be funny face on some big-ass brass face if one come to him and say "Hey, we need high-grade 12.7mm"! And regular ammo is that...uh...good that 2/3 of a lot is usually sorted out, with badplaced bullets and huge deviation of powder load.[/quote]
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    1mm off
    Depens on which source you have. Here is one that states the number that Yimmy posted:http://world.guns.ru/machine/mg02-e.htm

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    That same site has several other Russian weapons in .50 Soviet listed as 12.7X109mm. Either that one weapon on the link you posted is a one off 12.7X108mm or it was a typo on the page, all the other russian 12.7mm weapons listed are 12.7X109mm.
    Remington M-700 LTR 20" Fluted .308
    Leupold MK-4 3.5-10X40mm M-1 LR
    Leupold MK-4 Rings
    USO Base - 0 MOA
    Black Hills .308 175gr SMK

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