Building a ghillie

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    Building a ghillie

    Well, I've decided to build a ghillie suit. I've been looking around on here reading the posts and I've got the general idea of what I need to do. Mel's guide is great. I haven't started anything yet, but plan to in the next day or so.

    My roomate is about halfway into building one now, but his is as mel referred to it a "gorilla suit" with burlap down the front and back. It is very hard to see, until he stands up and takes it off because he's about to have a heatstroke. So that brings me to my first question. I have read a lot of you guys talking about vents and such in the suit, but can't quite figure out what you mean. Can someone post some pictures up of the vents on their suit? It gets pretty hot here in mid-Al, so I definitely want to stay cool.

    Another question is, what is everyone's preferred method of making the strings? Is tying bundles of jute to the netting best, or tying burlap and tearing it up?

    I read somewhere here a great method of putting on vegetation, which was to sew elastic bands onto the suit so you could put vegetation directly into that. Is that the best method or is there something better?

    And one more, for now, could someone show me how far around the front they attach the netting? As well as the boots, how do you attach burlap and such around the boots to hide them?

    Thanks for any help!!

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    Man, there's a GREAT link to a SF video on the Hide that is all about ghillie production. All the do's and don'ts are there.
    It's a multi-part series, so be sure to watch them all...you'll be glad you did.


    Found it:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fchxuYcz ... re=related
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    for ventilation, i know a lot of sniper programs (i.e. USMC scout sniper, army sniper) cut out the back and glue/sew mosquito netting in the back. i have even seen some sew it in under the armpits which i think would work really well.

    for how far to sew it around the front just to the seams on the side and about an inch or two OVER the shoulder is what you need. make sure you leave some hanging off the back of the bottom of the jacket. and for the pants take the netting to just up underneath the pockets.

    for veg attachment i don't really care for elastic bands. i prefer to take 8 or 10 inch strands of gutted 550 cord(gutted b/c it ties better and the knot doesn't "roll" out) and tie that in the netting and just tie your natural veg into it. that was told to me by a former army sniper and it works like a charm.

    need anymore info just hit me up.
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    Thanks for your help guys. The video's were really good, just wish they could make the same thing with a bit better of a camera.

    Daddy, do you have any pictures of exactly what you mean with the 550 cord to tie on vegetation. I have a picture in my head of how it is supposed to look, but it just doesn't seem very practical (in terms of being able to replace vegetation with relative ease). You don't happen to have any snapshots of the kind of thing you are talking about do you?

    I'm putting on the netting now. I'll throw some pics up as I start the burlap so you guys can help me some more.

    Thanks again.

    Edit: Just thought of a new question. Where do I need to put the netting on the sleeves? I know the canvas goes on the spot under the elbow where you crawl, does the netting go on the opposite side of that, or just all around except where the canvas is?

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    I'll put some pics up tomorrow when i can get outside.

    for the sleeves i would go about 1/3 the way down. and leave it a little long so it will still break up the outline but wont get in the way when your crawling.

    when you have your rifle shouldered you will look like a mass of leaves twigs and grass b/c you will have your arms close into your body. so you wont need your arms completely covered. if you get what I'm saying.

    but ill get out my ghillie and put some pics of the 550 cord. if i can I'll veg it up and get out in the field.
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    Take your time on the pics, I'm just finishing up netting so it'll be a day or so before I get to vegetation.

    I just read "1/3 of the way" for the arms, so mine is probably a bit wrong. But I figure if it is I can just cut off the excess.

    Here are pictures of my shirt and pants with netting. The glue is drying now. Does this look alright? Anything you would recommend changing?





    The shirt looks kind of funny because of the way I had to fold the sleeves up to put the netting on the top, but you should get the idea. And obviously I need to do something about the nice bright American flag. :lol: I don't have a hat done yet because I ran out of netting, but I'll get that soon.

    And as for the upcoming part, the burlap. I got some of the strips that are specifically for making ghillie suits, a roll about 2.5" thick. The holes on the netting are pretty small, but I'm going to try tying strips then fraying them out. If that doesn't work I will have to fray and then tie. Where do I need to concentrate the most burlap to? I know this question gets asked a lot, but I just can't figure out how dense I need to make it to work well but still be light. Daddy, do you mind showing me some pics of how much burlap you have on your suit when you show me pictures of the cord?

    And one more question. I have the netting on their with the shoe goo stuff, it seems very strong, but is it enough, or should I sew it on as well?

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    doing the sleeve wont really matter. might catch on stuff as you crawl but like i said I would go 1/3 most of the fun of making a ghillie is what you decide to do to it.

    the only thing i see that i wouldn't have done is you took the netting to the bottom of the pants. the problem there is if you tie on the burlap at the ankle your going to be tripping on the burlap as you walk so i would tie it on about 5 inches above the ankle (depending on length of your burlap)

    if i were you i would make sure i tie plenty of burlap around the sides of the ghillie. being that the point of the burlap is to break up your outline and to help you blend in somewhat.

    and yes for me the shoo goo is very strong i didn't need to sew but some people choose to.

    The 550 cord
    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 you can see i left some open patches so it still remains light weight

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 i left it thin up at the collar b/c the back of your hat will cover it.

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 you see here how i didn't take the net all the way down

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 some empty spots on my back

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 empty spots on my legs

    and since you asked about how the 550 cord worked

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 just tie it to the netting

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 get you veg. in this case dead grass which fyi is better used if put under the netting and folded back so it sicks up. the 550 cord is better to hold green stuff.

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 and a simple over under knot like with your shoes tie it in place.

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1

    As for the hat don't do like it did
    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1 don't do a flap cause it will want to roll up and make an unnatural lump just do a flap of netting on the back.

    and last but not least, canvas your front

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1

    and if you want to try to do thumb loops i came up with a method and it lets you replace them. take a D ring and sew it in the cuff and shoo goo the 550 core unto itself. it should look like this

    http://s956.photobucket.com/albums/ae49 ... g&newest=1

    sorry for making it so long but it was a nice day and i might have gotten a little trigger happy with the camera. :lol:

    send me some more questions
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    :shock:

    Awesome! Those pictures help a ton. I have done about a leg for the burlap and I did what you told me not to and tied it down at the ankles. But it is loosely tied, so I'll go pull that off and put it somewhere else. I should have the pants more or less done in a couple/few hours so I'll throw some pictures up once I do so my burlapping can be critiqued.

    I actually have gotten some canvas on the front already. I'll put pictures up of that as well in a bit. Found camouflage canvas at hobby lobby, so I don't need to do a lot of work to it, short of a bit of spray paint.

    I'll be back in a bit!

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    Alright I'm back.

    Even though I was careful and tried not to put too much burlap on, I still managed to coat the darn thing. I'm definitely going to need to cut down on it, but it's still not too bad. It also may be a bit darker than what I need.

    Here are the pictures:



    And here is the canvas on the front. It's hard to see exactly what is canvas and what's not, but the brighter stuff is on the canvas. I did hit it with some spray paint, and it looks a lot darker, the flash just made it look brighter.



    Still a work in progress, but I want to hear what you think I should do before I go farther. All comments, good or bad, are much appreciated.

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    congratulations i can't pick out anything i would change on it. it looks real good, i don't think its too dark either. i like the darkness of it b/c when you give it a mud bath it will lighten up some. if you think its too dark you can try to leave it in the sun for a few hours to fade. but for now i would keep it like that. plus take into account when you veg up, a lot of your veg (if your AO is like mine) will be a brighter green than you ghillie so it should even out.

    how much does it weigh?

    my turn to ask some questions. where did you get the rolls of burlap? i remember getting some a couple of years ago but it seemed like they were dipped in O.D. green paint and got sticky to my fingers after awhile did you have that problem with yours?

    definitely on the right track. looking at yours i want to make a woodland one even more. especially if you tell me were you got that burlap :lol:

    P.S. keep in mind that when you give it a mud bath the burlap is going to spin together when it gets wet then dries. again my opinion, i would keep the amount you have on there unless it weighs more than you like.
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