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This is a discussion on Budget FFP Rifle Scopes? within the Optics forums, part of the Sniping Related category; Originally Posted by Rhyno430 What? Why would FFP/SFP make a difference in how consistent a scope is past 1,000 yards. Sent from my iPhone using ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhyno430 View Post
    What? Why would FFP/SFP make a difference in how consistent a scope is past 1,000 yards.


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    I believe he saying FFP Mo Money and consistent out to a 1000 yards even more Mo Money looking for a " budget " scope might be a little difficult

    Question is what is a Budget scope ? $500 or $1000 or ?

    I happen to second the burris xtr ii i thinks its the best for the money
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    Hi there.

    I am new here, thank you NorCalFocus, and am learning a great deal.

    My "budget" long range scope is the Bushnell Elite Tactical ERS.

    So far I am out to 550 yards, on my way to 1,000 and the scope works well. Clean and clear.

    Maybe check this one out.
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    Today I took Burris xtr2 5-25x scr-mil, on REM700 action, McRee G5 Chassis, Criterion barrel, .300WM, 220gr SMK Barnes load, out to begin validating DOPE for this setup.

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    2017-02-25
    1200-1500
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    10 MPH SW

    Goal(s): .300WM out to 600yds

    Environment: Sunny, cool, light breeze. I wound up being over dressed except when up in the high pasture where I was fully exposed to the wind. Crazy amount of mirage.

    Equipment: Rem700, McRee G-5, .300WM(24), 30rds 220gr SMK, Barnes Load, Kestrel, Bushy LRF, AB Ballistics Calculator. I also took some tools in case I needed to make some adjustments requiring tools.



    Activity: Checked zero at 100yds, I was a little high as expected as I had been zeroed at 50yds. Wound up adjusting the cheek rest down 3/8 inch and that helped a lot. I was at 15x at 100yds. The mirage made it difficult to set parallax. I cranked until it was real bad and then I cranked the other way until it was real bad and then I put it in the middle where it was just plain bad. After three 4rd groups and some .1 .2 mil adjustments at 100yds I went to 500yds. Fired 4 rds at the paper target and was great on elevation but one round was wide left (in the 9 ring)(wind variance). Got 39 out of 40 score. Then fired 4 rds at the steel and all hit. The mirage was so bad that I could barely see the steel at 500yds.



    These steel are official sized steel minus the "D" section. So max width 12 inches and height 24 inches. On the steel my dead center aiming point was dead center, but with the hold I was close to the left (from my facing) edge. I did fire at the paper at 25x, but then had to crank back down to 15x to be able to see the steel as well as I wanted to. The wind was 4 MPH at 310 degrees, but allowing for higher wind as the bullet rose higher in the air on its trip I called it 3 MPH net. AB said 0.8 mils for 10 mph and 270 so I called it 0.25 mils left hold. AB also said 2.6 mils up at 500yds, so I cranked that. I'm planning on setting zero stop at 500yds. The hits on the steel were good, one dead center the others within 3 inches on either side, wind variation - elevation was good all within 3 inches of horizontal dead center.
    Then I went to 600yds and tried. But no matter what I did I could not begin to see the target. I laid in front of the gun and rolled downhill 10yds and back and checked and thought I could see the tree line at least. So I rolled down and back again, but no better. I had no shot without the tripod and I didn't bring the tripod!

    Results: The results match the AB, so I can build my DOPE card now.
    Barrett M99(32)
    McCree/Rem .300WM(24), Burris 5-25x, SCR-MIL
    Custom 6.5G(18), Burris 3-15x SCR-MIL
    Custom 5.56(18), Burris 1.5-8x CQB MIL
    Colt 5.56(10.3), IRD IR-Hunter Mk2, 35mm, 2.5x, 640(60), CQBL-1
    Custom 5.56(10.5) Holosun 515p+3xmagnifier, PAQ-4C
    BMC 5.56(14.5) LS 6.5-20x TMR, ir-lzr
    CMMG .22LR(16), LM ir-lzr
    CO-LR, L-3
    LS 3-18x H58
    2xPVS-14, 3p
    XD38A, 38mm, 1.5x, 384(50)
    PAS29/COTI
    Odin,17mm, 1x, 320(30)

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    Go with a Burris xtrii series
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    Still in college? Budget is probably low and he needs two scopes. I bought the Athlon Argos BTR 8-34 FFP. I think I paid a little more than $400.00 and so far I am VERY impressed with what I got for my money. Is it as good as my Vortex Razor HD Gen II 45.-27? Not nearly. But as far as stretching your dollars go, I would at least research it . Good luck....
    EDIT: Not sure where I got the impression he was still in college but I would still recommend the Athlon...
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    To my way of thinking, repeatability of turrets is the prime consideration in a long range scope. If one is on a budget I feel the SWFA SS in a fixed power is the absolute best way to go. Never saw the time when a fixed 10X would not get the job done.
    Last edited by Hammer47; 03-18-2017 at 05:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hammer47 View Post
    To my way of thinking, repeatability of turrets is the prime consideration in a long range scope. If one is on a budget I feel the SWFA SS in a fixed power is the absolute best way to go. Never saw the time when a fixed 10X would not get the job done.
    I was going to bring this up. for. tight budget under 700.00 it is better to stick with a fixed power scope in the 10x range. it will serve you well out to 1k.
    up till about 10 years ago the military was still using fixed power scopes on the sniper weapons systems, and we had no problem using them out to 1k.
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