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    Alright guys, it's about time for me to start on the reloading venture. Here is my current list, what are your opinions? I am starting with just .308WIN and all prices are from MidwayUSA, but I will look around for better prices before buying.

    RCBS ChargeMaster 1500...$349.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/77...combo-110-volt
    RCBS 2-Die Set .307, .308 Winchester...$29.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/56...308-winchester
    RCBS Shellholder #3...$7.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/32...ngfield-45-acp
    RCBS Precision Mic .308 Winchester...$52.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/57...308-winchester
    RCBS Universal Hand Priming Tool...$59.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/31...d-priming-tool
    RCBS Case Lube Kit...$19.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/67...-case-lube-kit
    Thumler's Tumbler Model B...$174.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/42...mbler-110-volt
    Lyman AccuTrimmer Kit...$52.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/75...-with-9-pilots
    Lyman Dial Caliper 6" SS...$30.49 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/12...tainless-steel
    Lyman Case Prep Multi Tool...$22.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/13...rep-multi-tool
    Lyman Bleacher Reloading Tray...$6.49 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/30...plastic-orange
    Lee Primer Pocket Cleaner...$4.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/46...pocket-cleaner
    Stack-On 1-Drawer Reloading Bench...$205.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/69...board-backwall
    Saturn powder funnel .30 Cal...$12.79 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/92...inum-and-brass

    Total $1,032.66

    ...As for a press, some have recommended me to start simple with something like the Lee Reloader Single Stage Press for $37.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/80...le-stage-press ...but something about it tells me I will be wanting far to early with that one. Thoughts?
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    - Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD (.308 WIN)
    - Savage Model 11 (.270 WSM)
    - Remington 760 Gamemaster (.243 WIN)
    - Winchester Model 9422M (.22 Win Mag)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 20 (.22 S-L-LR)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 60 (.22 LR)
    - Remington 870 Express Magnum (12 ga.)
    - Winchester Ranger Model 120 (20 ga.)
    - Ithaca M-66 SuperSingle (.410 ga.)
    - Ultra-Hi by Miroku of Japan (.45 BP)

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    Personally, I believe this would be a much more efficient press with the turret design:

    RCBS Turret Press...$224.99 https://www.midwayusa.com/product/26...s-turret-press
    - Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD (.308 WIN)
    - Savage Model 11 (.270 WSM)
    - Remington 760 Gamemaster (.243 WIN)
    - Winchester Model 9422M (.22 Win Mag)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 20 (.22 S-L-LR)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 60 (.22 LR)
    - Remington 870 Express Magnum (12 ga.)
    - Winchester Ranger Model 120 (20 ga.)
    - Ithaca M-66 SuperSingle (.410 ga.)
    - Ultra-Hi by Miroku of Japan (.45 BP)

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    Do not go cheap for the press. You will not be satisfied for long. The Forster coax is the way to go for the press. It is just as quick as the turret but more precise. Also with the Forster press you will not need the shell holder.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/265...le-stage-press

    Forget the lube pad and just buy some imperial sizing wax. It is much better, cheaper, and easier to use.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/519...izing-wax-2-oz

    or

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/198...izing-wax-2-oz

    or

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/758...-lube-4-oz-tub


    I would also forget the chargemaster. It is not nearly as accurate as they let on. I would spend the same money on a quality lab grade scale and a trickler and the lee perfect powder measure. It is slower than the chargemaster but much more precise. Second option is a good beam scale, trickler, and perfect powder measure.

    I would step up on dies. I would get a quality Redding, Forster, or if you can swing it whidden die set. These are important in my opinion.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/270...308-winchester

    or

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/454...308-winchester

    or

    http://www.whiddengunworks.com/produ...icrometer-set/

    If you have a caliper and the hornady comparator you will not need the precision mic. The hornady comparator has one insert to measure headspace and one for measuring base to ogive. You will want both for the calibers you intend to load.

    All hand primers leave a lot to be desired. If money is tight i would prime on the top of the coax until you can afford a CPS or CPS lite (not on midway). The coax will do fine but is painfully slow.


    With the stainless tumbler you will not need a primer pocket cleaner. For the price of that tumbler you can build a much larger and more powerful one if you have some mechanical ability. If you are interested let me know and I will walk you trough it. I will also give you a piece of 8" pipe if you meet me in Memphis.

    As far as trimmers go, you will be much better off with a Wilson trimmer than the Lyman. They are more precise and not a lot more. Just the base model and the appropriate case holder is all you need. It works just fine from being held in a vice.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/741...th-sized-cases

    AND

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/966...tainless-steel
    wow-- these have really gone up in price. you can probably watch ebay and grab one for $30 or so.

    Lyman makes a bench mounted model of the case prep tool. It is a little more money but worth the extra.

    I would think for the $200 you could build a better bench that what you are looking at buying. I would build it onto the wall so it can't move. I have two benches and built both of them for under $100.

    Saturn powder funnels are pretty good. Xtreme hardcore funnels are much nicer. They also are not found on midway.

    http://xtremehardcoregear.com/powderfunnels.html
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    On the press, either go with the Forster Single Stage and buy once cry once, or go with the Lee "O" frame.

    Forster or Redding dies would be a much better choice.

    Lee sells a complete shell holder assortment for $20, don't pay $7 for one.

    Buy this on sale and with a 20% off coupon. Saves you $100 on a bench. I know lots of guys use these for a reloading bench. Wood Workbench - 60" Wood Workbench w/ 4 Drawers

    The Lyman multi tool has the primer pocket cleaner, so no need for the Lee PITA one.

    The Thumblers Tumbler is the best. But you can buy a Farnkford Arsenol for like $50. I'm not sure how much difference there is in tumblers.

    Skip the case lube kit and get either Redding Imperial Wax or Hornady's sizing wax. Buy the Lube brush still if you want, but fingers and q-tips work fine.

    I'm not a fan of hand primers. Either go full out and buy the CPS Lite from Primal Rights, or just use the priming method on which ever press you buy.

    Toss the 308 mic kit and get these instead Hornady Lock-N-Load Bullet Comparator Basic Set 6 Inserts
    Hornady Lock-N-Load Overall Length Ga Bolt Action
    Hornady Lock-N-Load Headspace Ga 5 Bushing Set Comparator
    Then your set to measure any rounds you want to do later on.

    I see ddd was posting while I was, lol. We we're thinking a lot along the same lines too.
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    I got my gun today. Went to the range. You guys weren't kidding. Even off a rest it seemed to be touching the barrel. What an utter piece of s*** that Hogue stock is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddd oo7 View Post
    ...I would also forget the chargemaster. It is not nearly as accurate as they let on. I would spend the same money on a quality lab grade scale and a trickler and the lee perfect powder measure. It is slower than the chargemaster but much more precise. Second option is a good beam scale, trickler, and perfect powder measure...
    The only thing that scares me about these routes is inexperience. I liked the chargemaster because it seemed effective and lazily simple. I do have a fear of blowing my face off due to improperly measured powder until experience flourishes.

    Quote Originally Posted by ddd oo7 View Post
    ...If you have a caliper and the hornady comparator you will not need the precision mic. The hornady comparator has one insert to measure headspace and one for measuring base to ogive. You will want both for the calibers you intend to load...
    Again, fear of inexperience. The RCBS mic kit looked to make things simple for my novice skills...correction, for my lack of ALL experience in this department.

    Quote Originally Posted by ddd oo7 View Post
    ...All hand primers leave a lot to be desired. If money is tight i would prime on the top of the coax until you can afford a CPS or CPS lite (not on midway). The coax will do fine but is painfully slow...
    I want a CPS...but not willing to drop $600 at this time when I won't even be loading that high of a volume to start with. The hand primer seemed like a suitable alternative till experience is earned

    Quote Originally Posted by ddd oo7 View Post
    ...With the stainless tumbler you will not need a primer pocket cleaner. For the price of that tumbler you can build a much larger and more powerful one if you have some mechanical ability. If you are interested let me know and I will walk you trough it. I will also give you a piece of 8" pipe if you meet me in Memphis...
    What would it cost to ship it? Surely still cheaper than buying it locally. I would be willing to build one. It is simply a motor belted or chained to a tumbler...


    Not that I am lazy, I will start researching all of these options and editing my list as necessary. I will repost the list shortly for further review if applicable. However, if you have any of the links handy...that would make life simpler. Thank you for your help
    - Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD (.308 WIN)
    - Savage Model 11 (.270 WSM)
    - Remington 760 Gamemaster (.243 WIN)
    - Winchester Model 9422M (.22 Win Mag)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 20 (.22 S-L-LR)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 60 (.22 LR)
    - Remington 870 Express Magnum (12 ga.)
    - Winchester Ranger Model 120 (20 ga.)
    - Ithaca M-66 SuperSingle (.410 ga.)
    - Ultra-Hi by Miroku of Japan (.45 BP)

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    Just so you know how much experience I have reloading...I have never seen reloading equipment in person with exception to the cheap looking press kits that Bass Pro sometimes carries on the shelf. And due to my experience with most box store equipment, I never even took the time or showed the interest in such kits to actually look them over. So you guys are basically teaching your 5yo to reload at this point.
    - Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD (.308 WIN)
    - Savage Model 11 (.270 WSM)
    - Remington 760 Gamemaster (.243 WIN)
    - Winchester Model 9422M (.22 Win Mag)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 20 (.22 S-L-LR)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 60 (.22 LR)
    - Remington 870 Express Magnum (12 ga.)
    - Winchester Ranger Model 120 (20 ga.)
    - Ithaca M-66 SuperSingle (.410 ga.)
    - Ultra-Hi by Miroku of Japan (.45 BP)

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    Chargemaster is easy and is accurate to within about + or - 0.25 gr. They claim 0.1 gr, but according to my saturious they are sadly mistaken. It will work as long as you don't push max loads.

    The hornady comparators are fairly simple to use. You will not have trouble with them.

    If you can't swing the CPS yet then just prime on the coax. It is slow, but works. I wouldn't mess with a hand primer.

    I would ship. I have a fedex account. To build the tumbler you will need a good motor (mine is a 1hp baldor...but that is overkill), four pillow bearings, two 3/4" shafts, pulleys for each shaft and the motor, and rubber hose to go on the shafts. Just bolt all of it to 3/4 plywood and you are done. I have probably 100,000 rounds through mine with very little maintence or issues.

    I will get links a little later when I am in front of a computer.
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    Comparing the RCBS Turret to the Forster Co-Ax...is the Forster that much better? I'm wondering because with the RCBS Turret I would assume it is faster with having 6 dies on the turret, just rotate and press...vice having to change out dies all the time. If the Forster Co-Ax is that much better, than so be it...I intend to do every step in batches anyway
    - Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD (.308 WIN)
    - Savage Model 11 (.270 WSM)
    - Remington 760 Gamemaster (.243 WIN)
    - Winchester Model 9422M (.22 Win Mag)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 20 (.22 S-L-LR)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 60 (.22 LR)
    - Remington 870 Express Magnum (12 ga.)
    - Winchester Ranger Model 120 (20 ga.)
    - Ithaca M-66 SuperSingle (.410 ga.)
    - Ultra-Hi by Miroku of Japan (.45 BP)

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    Yes it's that much better. As you said everything is done in steps, so your not going to be using both dies at once.

    If you were going to do pistol and wanted to speed up the process, then a Lee Classic turret is great.
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    I got my gun today. Went to the range. You guys weren't kidding. Even off a rest it seemed to be touching the barrel. What an utter piece of s*** that Hogue stock is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorCalFocus View Post
    ...Forster or Redding dies would be a much better choice.

    Lee sells a complete shell holder assortment for $20, don't pay $7 for one...
    I have heard a lot of rumor that it is a good idea to match the shellholder to the dies...Redding shellholders are $10+ each or $56+ for a set of 5...but if there is any truth to this rumor than I'm game. Don't want to spend $20 on a set of Lee shellholders if I should be matching shellholders to dies...
    - Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD (.308 WIN)
    - Savage Model 11 (.270 WSM)
    - Remington 760 Gamemaster (.243 WIN)
    - Winchester Model 9422M (.22 Win Mag)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 20 (.22 S-L-LR)
    - Marlin Glenfield Model 60 (.22 LR)
    - Remington 870 Express Magnum (12 ga.)
    - Winchester Ranger Model 120 (20 ga.)
    - Ithaca M-66 SuperSingle (.410 ga.)
    - Ultra-Hi by Miroku of Japan (.45 BP)

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