Er Shaw custom barrel questions

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    Er Shaw custom barrel questions

    Car repairs came up so amount of funds for a rifle went down. I was thinking of purchasing a Savage Stevens 200 in .223 off of gunbroker and customizing later. I went to Er Shaw Custom barrels and tried figuring out what I needed which is hwere the problems cropped up.

    1st question: What type bolt face does the Stevens 200 use? I had three to choose from small bolt face, standard bolt face, or magnum bolt face. Only the small bolt face has the .223 option. Maybe the Stevens 200 .223 has a small bolt face while say the Stevens 200 .308 has a standard bolt face??

    2nd question: Twist rates for .223 were 1 to 9", 1 to 12", or 1 to 14". Opinions? Seems like I read somewhere the military uses a 1 to 9" twist rate.

    3rd and final question: Barrel contour? For Savage rifles it looked like the contour was 2. Correct?

    Thanks for any and all help....

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    I think that starting with a Stevens action is a great idea. Check out http://www.sharpshootersupply.com/ He specialiszes in Stevens/Savage parts and labor. If you want to have an excellent smith do your work contact Mark Lammers at http://www.losokcustomarms.com He has a Savage/Stevens package that includes a new barrel, stock and accusrizing your rifle that is very reasonable, like less than $600.

    I think all Stevens barrels are a sporter contour from the factory, although I don't know what number that is.

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    Thanks for responding. I picked .223 because the rounds are cheaper and recoil would be way easier to take for the wife and kids...when they grow up that is :wink: Also there are no ranges in area that go beyond 300 yards.

    I've been looking on gunbroker and can probably pick up a Stevens 200 in .223 for $325 which includes shipping and FFl transfer fee. Another $175 for a heavy barrel brings it up to $500. Just trying to figure out the options.

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    When you start spending $500 you can buy a Savage 10FP, which already has a heavy barrel on it. My local shop could order me one for $520. Search Gunbroker for 10fp and see what comes up.

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    its always nice to know you have a custom barrel though. but, savage barrels are very good.

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    I agree Speedy. LOSOK's Savage package is hard to beat, $850 for a custom rifle if they supply the action or $550 to take your action and build it from there. Less if you'll take a Duramaxx stock. So if you head down to your local pawn shop or gun store and can score a Stevens action for $200, which isn't unreasonable, send it to Mark with a small down payment and wait a little bit, you will receive in return a custom rifle guarunteed to shoot 1/2 MOA and probably capable of better, all broken in and ready to shoot. That includes one color Duracoat or blued and for a bit more he'll send it to birdsong.

    Mark, pretty soon I'll need a commision :lol:

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    If you don't already have a .223 it's a good choice. It does have the small bolt face. As far as barrels you'll want to order one of the "Savage" contours to keep the project cheap. The standard contours have a shoulder instead of threads for the barrel nut, meaning it would be short chambered and require finish reaming. For my project I ordered a .308 Stevens and a varmint contour barrel 26" and in .260 Rem. Don't worry they'll go over everything with you so you won't go wrong.

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    The Stevens 223s are often good little shooters right out of the box...That doesn't mean that they are always all that they can be; they will often shoot even better with a little low cost tuning. They have decent barrels, what they don't have is a decent stock with decent bedding. The 200 is a handy little lightweight package, and a blast to shoot.

    The Shaw barrels are really just production grade barrels...so replacing the stock barrel with one of these might just be a step sideways, and might not really add much except extra weight. Savage factory barrels are about the same.

    Make sure the action is seated properly in the stock, and the action bolts torqued correctly, and that the barrel is fully free floating...install a good quality optic, and shoot the rifle with match ammo to see what it will do first, before making any changes. ...Federal GMM or Black hills.

    The 1/9 twist will handle up to about 69gr match ammo...that will be a fair test. A 1/8 is the best twist overall for a 223 if shooting heavier bullets is the goal, but for 75 grain and under, the 1/9 is fine.

    Upgrading the stock, bedding, and good optics is all a part of the overall accuracy package...combining that with a high quality match barrel might be money better spent if match grade accuracy is the goal.

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    Bolt face size is a matter of the cartridge's rim size. All the .223s are going to be small, all .308s will be standard, while magnums are, well, magnum.

    The twist rate will depend on the bullets you plan to shoot. I have a 1:8 in a Wilson Combat AR barrel to shoot heavier bullets, like 80 grains. 1:9 will probably be what you'd want, unless you plan on varmint hunting with 40 grain bullets most of the time.


    If building a rifle for long range, I'd get a Savage Varmint contour, also my opinion.


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    Savage/Stevens .223 for $286 shipped at Bud's.

    http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/prod ... s_id/14603
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