Smaller round that shoots like a .308, suggestions.

Smaller round that shoots like a .308, suggestions.

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    Smaller round that shoots like a .308, suggestions.

    Hey guys I am looking to get my hands on a .308 rifle but would also like to get a smaller caliber rifle, something cheaper then .308.

    In sorts I guess you could say I am looking for a cheaper, lighter recoil round for the range and friend who don't like the bang of anything more the 7.62 X 39 Soviet. This also has to be a fairly common round I would like to be able to get my hands on this stuff just about anywhere. So please no WSM.

    The obvious choise is most likely .223 but I am also considering 22-250, 243 Win possibly .270 Win.

    Another question while on the topic is there such a thing as a necked down .308? Would that not be .243 Win since it's 6.16 X 51 and .308 is 7.62 X 51. If so would this make it easier for relaods after words?

    Thanks in advance for all the input guys.

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    Re: Smaller round that shoots like a .308, suggestions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nimravus
    Hey guys I am looking to get my hands on a .308 rifle but would also like to get a smaller caliber rifle, something cheaper then .308.

    In sorts I guess you could say I am looking for a cheaper, lighter recoil round for the range and friend who don't like the bang of anything more the 7.62 X 39 Soviet. This also has to be a fairly common round I would like to be able to get my hands on this stuff just about anywhere. So please no WSM.

    The obvious choise is most likely .223 but I am also considering 22-250, 243 Win possibly .270 Win.

    Another question while on the topic is there such a thing as a necked down .308? Would that not be .243 Win since it's 6.16 X 51 and .308 is 7.62 X 51. If so would this make it easier for relaods after words?

    Thanks in advance for all the input guys.
    Personally if I were to get pick a common round that is smaller than a .308 I would pick the .243 Also you are correct the .243(6mm) Win. (and the .260(6.5) Rem) are necked down .308 rounds, among probably countless other wildcat rounds that have been baised off of the .308 round. But the .270 Win. is not what you are looking for, if you are in search of a round that shoots lighter than a .308 The .270 is necked down .30-06 round. While the .270 Win is smaller in diameter to the .308 it is by no means lighter in recoil(but the .270 is an excellent round).

    The .223 is a great round to shoot and get plenty of ammo for. I personally would choose the .243(mainly because I already have a .223). But if you are going to be at the range I would give the .223 the edge. But if you want a round that shoots like a .308 the edge goes to the .243 Its really a toss up. It just depends on your preference and what you plan on doing with the rifle later down the road.

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    I'm a big fan of the 223 round. I have an AR and a Rem700 VSSF both in 223. I use the Rem700 to introduce friends to shooting with as well as honing my skills. I also happen to have a 270 and its not the gun you want for reduced recoil.

    I like to use the 223 to introduce my friends to shooting. Even my friends girlfriend, the hippie, likes to shoot the thing! The big edge to the 223 is the lack of heat that builds up. A 270 gets hot fast, a 22-250 gets pretty toasty, but I can move 100+ rounds through my 223 with a varmit barrel without it getting too hot. That way you still get good accurate shots at 100-200 yards all day long, even in 110F heat.

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    I would go with a .223, it's a round that can be used for much different purposes than the .308 and is cheaper to shoot. The .243, .260 and others will serve a similar purpose as the .308 while not being significantly cheaper to shoot.

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    I like either the .223 or .243, and own both.If you already have the .308, the .223 would be cheaper and easier on the shoulder, not that a .308 or .243 are by any means rough.I shoot a lot of both .223 and .243, and if I had to make a 1000 yard shot, the .243 is the better choice.Ultimately, you'd have to decide on the purpose and range as opposed to cost of ammo. The .204 Ruger is becoming a big small game/ target caliber too.

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    My vote is the .243. It makes a great general purpose round. I have never been a huge fan of .223. However it makes a great varmint round and the ammo can be had fairly cheap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longshot38
    ...223...makes a great varmint round...
    Yeah, for like the two legged kind... :wink:

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    OK so you dont wnat expense of a 308? Then choices are 223 or 5.56, because all the others cost more to shoot. Either because bbls burns up far fatser or ammo just costs more.

    Lots of Taliban think the 223 is a crappy round to get hit by.

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    Well it looks like the .223 is going to be the winner it would seem most range challenges are in .308 or .223 so that narrows it alot. Plus I agree with most of you .223 is fairly cheap and not to harsh on barrels.

    Thanks for the imput guys I may still get a .243 one day just for fun.

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    What about a CZ527 in 7.62x39? The x39 is the only caliber that will come close to .223 although it seems you did mention reloading. If the price of getting the initial brass isn't a problem for you, the CZ527 is also available in .221 Fireball. It doesn't give up a whole lot of velocity to .223 but it takes a heck of a lot less powder and has much less recoil in doing so.

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