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This is a discussion on 12GA FH- Hairy Blaster- within the DIY forums, part of the Sniping Related category; Please notice in the picture above, cases loaded with the 715 gr jacketed slugs, the 3rd and 4th ones. They both have same 90gr of ...

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  1. #21
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    Please notice in the picture above, cases loaded with
    the 715 gr jacketed slugs, the 3rd and 4th ones.
    They both have same 90gr of 4227, same number of
    wads, shoot at 1700 in 24" NEF barrel. 3rd plastic is
    3.5" case, the 4th brass is a 3" RMC. Both have shotgun
    primers.The 5th longer case is a 3.5" strong
    brass one I made from a PROP case, and when I put
    in primer bushing, I set it up for shotgun primer. I
    will test it with 4227 powder, 600gr and 715 gr slugs.
    Also in a couple months Rob, who's idea the 12GA FH
    was will be able to deliver the super strong 12GA FH
    cases made from BMG brass. And the they will be
    headstamped, all done by his CNC machine.Ed

    Ed Hubel

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    RIP on AR Big bore forum is doing 835 Mossy and 1400gr Darwin slugs.
    A 14.5 pound Ulti-Mag. The hollow part of the butt is filled with about 5.5 lbs of lead shot and epoxy. Has 4X Sightron in QRW rings. Do 3.5" plastic hulls with the Darwin in it first. It balances on the trigger. Loading the magazine with 4 and one up the spout will add about 1.25 pounds if the 5 rounds are "Darwins," and move the balance point to the front of the triggerguard.
    It is heavier rifled 24" chromoly alloy barrel.

    Brett in MN has Mossy 835, only with smoothbore barrel and gets
    1oz finned plastic tail Ballistic Products slug to 2300 fps,
    using shotgun powder.Ed



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    Still testing 8ga I have setup in the Enfield.
    It has a long smooth barrel. Those 8ga
    heavy plastic cases are great. Fire them 4 times with
    no resizing. Here is pic of slugs used in 8ga..
    One and two are 1015gr hollowbase. Three and 4 are
    875gr hollowbase. On four the cushion base is cut off
    so I can use card wad and have more room for
    powder.Ed

    Ed Hubel

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    We got our RMC 3.5" brass 12ga cases. These are turned
    cases using shotgun primer. They have nice thick base,
    and a good radius in the corner. Got a Brenekke OK 437 gr
    slug to 2800 fps, a 540gr Hammerhead slug to 2450. got 600gr
    Dixie to 2300, the 715gr RG jacketed to 2130, and a 1400gr
    Darwin to 1400 plus. Tested in NEF. Shot one case 15 times
    and still going strong, tight primer, with loads running about
    20- 24,000 psi.I have pics of cases soon, and we also will
    test these brass ones and 3.5" plastic in 12ga Encore
    Prohunter..Ed
    Ed Hubel

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    Here is picture of RMC 3.5" cases with variety of slugs,
    locked on wad slugs and sabots. There are 3 of our long cases
    in back for comparison. The RMC turned cases have shotgun
    primer. Case # 4 has 437gr slug in BPI SABOT( finally hard sabots
    in 12ga for reloading), #5 437gr Brenekke KO slug, #6 540gr
    Hammerhead slug, #7 600gr Dixie hard slug, #8 RG's 715gr
    jacketed, #9 750gr solid brass. Ed

    Ed Hubel

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    Here is picture of a 12ga hard discarding sabot you can get
    for reloading, the BPI. From Ballistic products. In picture
    is sabot with a 437gr Hornady Great Plains 50cal slug I put
    in it. Also the 410 gr and 385gr Great Plains work.
    Finally able to load your own instead of paying 3-5 bucks
    each for loaded rounds.You can use the 500 S&W bullets also
    as well as shorter 50 cal blackpowder slugs... Ed

    Ed Hubel

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    Been testing the Encore with the Nef loads. Barrel breech is
    one inch same as muzzle, where the NEF is 1.200".
    It has dovetails cut out in bottom of the barrel for
    the nuts for the forearm screws. ... At the bottom of dove tail
    there is only .060" thickness. Before reaming had back one fill
    welded as it was where the taper for the forcing cone ended up
    with 3.5" chamber. I load it with 10 gr less powder than the NEF
    on all different slugs and weights. Like the BPI sabot in 3.5"
    plastic in NEF, 437 gr slug, 120gr 4227, 2400 fps, and in Encore
    110gr 4227, 2270 fps. In 3.5" RMC brass case, same sabot/slug
    in NEF 140gr 4227, 2600+ fps,Encore 130gr 4227, 2500.
    The Encore is now 12 lbs, with hollow in butt and recesses in
    forearm with lead shot.In pic you see NEF And Encore with RMC
    brass cases started in chambers. Ed

    Ed Hubel

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    See what's possible, original Savage 210 action/stock
    the one I have our long case in. You can lengthen
    magazine in the plastic stock for up to 3.5" RMC brass
    cases, also 3.5" plastic cases. And you can open up
    bottom of the action to match, and the other things
    I did on the port, bolt travel, etc to feed cases.
    I did mine with heavy wood stock in singleshot.
    Using original plastic stock you weight the hollow butt.
    Trigger assembly on these is back to leave space for this.
    In picture you see stock original and stock mag longer.
    Second picture is a 3.5" brass case and slug overall
    length 3.7", in longer magazine. Brett in MN, who did this
    first used the regular follower and mag spring ok,
    it feeds ok for him. .. Ed



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    Info to help loading BPI sabots in plastic,ok to use plastic
    overwad over powder, but should use cardboard card and
    nitro wads above that below the BPI sabot. Sabot doesn't
    tear up and accuracy much better. Personally I use
    cards over powder and nitro wads, And with used cases
    roll crimping onto the thin edge of sabot is uneven, so with
    my used cases I set the sabot and slug to right height and
    just redo the 6 point star crimp real hard, and the middle of
    all the crimp sectors set right on the flat nose of the slug
    in the sabot. I also do the same with RG's 715gr hollowpoint
    with the crimp sectors right on the hollowpoint in used cases.
    Roll crimping holds RG's slug in ok but its taper of the ogive and
    smoothness it doesn't open crimp all the way around when
    fired. The star crimp set slug at same height so you can get
    the same amount of powder. With RMC brass these are not
    problems but with brass to get good feeding from mag rounding
    front edge of mouth helps. Sectioned picture of RMC on right
    next to our long original case to show how well it is built
    thick and strong. One of cases has 20 firings, still good..Ed

    Ed Hubel

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    What others are doing hopping up loads and experimenting.
    Brett in MN uses a Mossy 835 12ga smoothbore turkey gun, but
    it is backbored 10ga size all the way out to end and has 10ga size
    choke, and he uses 12ga AQ 441gr slug with locked on basewad, from
    BPI. Using top rib bead sight only he can hit a pail 5 times in a row at
    70 yds.Amazing accuracy for overbored barrel. He uses BPI X12X seal
    plastic wad, two 1/4" white felt wads, thin card then the AQ slug,
    with 65gr of Longshot getting 2200 fps. 3.5" new cases with
    roll crimp.......I asked him check it with a scope on it sometime.

    NFG from Greybeard and Shotgunworld with pump Mossy and 18.5"
    with slug barrel. He gets a 525gr Lyman over 1800 fps with
    80gr of 4759/4227 powder. Hard alloy mix Lyman and shot one through
    17" of pine. Shown in the pic below it mushroomed to .800" and only
    lost 8gr weight. It is a wasp waisted slug that is shot from a 12ga
    regular WW12 shotcup. The skirt of the slug collapsed into the underside
    of the nose. Many guys say that these are as accurate as most
    other stuff used. He used 3" plastic, PGS wad over powder and
    WW12 wadcup with slug it. He cuts wadcup petals back to length
    of the Lyman.In pic on left you see the Lymans with hollowbase up
    and the shape of it when starting out.

    Ok I am going to get Lymans to test and Longshot to test.
    Got to see if the Longshot will get further up in velocity
    than Blue Dot. Ed

    Ed Hubel

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