Optics Question

Optics Question

This is a discussion on Optics Question within the Optics forums, part of the Sniping Related category; I was doing research and I have decided that I want a FFP MOA reticle with MOA adjustments, and a 4-16 power magnification range. I ...

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    Optics Question

    I was doing research and I have decided that I want a FFP MOA reticle with MOA adjustments, and a 4-16 power magnification range. I will initially just be using the scope to practice medium range shots with (400-700 yds) with the ultimate goal of being comfortable at those ranges to start using the scope for mainly short to medium range hunting (100-700 yds). I have researched a ton of scopes and came across this one from cabelas. It is called the Cabela's Covenant Tactical FFP Riflescope. I have had great success with Cabela's scopes in the past and I was wondering what you all think of this one. I am a college kid so the budget aspect is a big deal for me. Any comments or reccomendations you guys have would be great! Thanks.

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    Here is a link to it on the Cabela's website. Cabela's Covenant Tactical FFP Riflescopes : Cabela's

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    Would this mostly be used for hunting?

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    Yes it would be used mostly for hunting.

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    Then in order to udate your research, I would recommend that you try a few FFP scopes with the magnification power set to the lowest level.
    In hunting in poor evening or early morning light with most ffp scopes without illuminated reticles one cannot see the crosshairs well enough for
    a shot at close ranges. For this reason most of my hunting scopes are Second focal plane ones, while for paper and steel targets my rifles for
    that are all FFP. There are several Youtube videos done where the person starts at 100 yards with a ffp scope at the scopes highest power
    and reduces power until lowest. He leaves any decision up to the viewer, but his intention is to show what I said above. This can be troubling
    particularly if hunting early and late in timbered areas where the range would be 50 to 150 yards. Highest quality glass may not help you
    with this either. Looking at the scopes in a shop will not help you much either unless you are aware of this.

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    I tend to not to trust the turret reliability on the cheap scopes. It's just not possible to meet the expectation with that kind of money. Because you are a college student and it's the budget really matters, maybe fixed scope will probably be a best suited choice. You wanted shoot long range then it means your rifle is not a 22lr and should recoil a bit. Chances are those cheap turret won't hold for long time. 10X scopes will get you started up to 600 yardish or little more of shooting depends on your eye sights. You're a college age, should be more than fine. Far as hunting concerns, average hunting will be done within 300 yards. 10X fixed may be too much for close range, but you can always use canted BUIS.

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    I too have had great results with Cabela's "Private Brand" scopes. As long as one realized that they are not going to get $1K performance from a $250 scope, they are a great buy.

    Download a chart like this:




    Print it out on a piece of bright white paper and take it with you to the store. Put the chart up at enough distance to allow the scope to focus on it (Take some painters masking tape).

    Then use the chart to compare the optical qualities of the scopes you are looking at.

    Clarity is important and even more so than magnification. Magnification will make things bigger but it takes lens quality to make it clear.



    PS: Just "Right Click" on the image above and you should be able to copy it to your computer for printing.

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    Ok, Thank you, that is great information. I currently use a Cabela's Alaskan Guide on my hunting rifle and the reason I was feeling good about the cabela's glass is because my other one does fantastic in low light conditions. But thank you, I will take your information to heart and add that to my research.

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    Awesome, thank you all! I do realize I am not going to get the same quality as a $1k scope and I honestly would love to be able to get a $1k scope but I cannot afford it. So, After doing research (and more is needed) I have come across this one that fits my budget and features. And it helps that I have had Cabela's Scopes before and had great success with them. And Gpark I just wouldn't be able to work with a fixed power for hunting and you are correct, I do not shoot a 22lr haha I actually Have a .243, a 30-06, and a .338 win mag. I have not done any work with the .338 yet though, it is still brand new in the box and this scope would not go on that. And the turrets are always a concern, howevever I have a Cabela's Alaskan Guide on my 30-06 right now, and the turrets work great and track fantastic after alot of use, I just dislike the duplex reticle on it when I extend my ranges. This scope would go on my 30-06 right away. And thank you deadshot, I will definitely use that piece of paper!

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    I would consider Athalon on that price range. I have no first hand experience with them...but others here do and might chime in. Orkan did a review of them over on gunhive...and I think he has them in stock too.

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