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The Home Armory: Powder Selection

This is a discussion on The Home Armory: Powder Selection within the Reloading forums, part of the Sniping Related category; I could get by with H4831SC, RL-15 and Varget for rifles Probably Power Pistol for 45acp ZM...

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    I could get by with H4831SC, RL-15 and Varget for rifles


    Probably Power Pistol for 45acp

    ZM

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    Many calibers can use different powders, however, each powder in each caliber is (essentially) targeted at a particular velocity range (e.g. pressure curve).

    For example, Using Varget in 223, one should choose a bullet in the 69gr through 77 gr range so as to keep the MV in the 2700-3000 fps range where Varget performs best. I have a very excellent load in 69 gr SMK in 223 that can cover most any use inside 600 yards and some beyond.

    Likewise, Varget in 308 loves 155 gr bullets through 175 gr bullets. My 155 Lapua scenar load goes out at the fast end of Vargets performance band at 2950 fps, whiel the 175 goes out near the lower end of Vargets prefered band near 2650 fps.

    So, when choosing that powder, you are simultaneously narrowing the bullet selection, and with that in mind, you might just as well stock up on bullets when you stock up on powder. I, personally, would stock up on primers at the same time.

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    If you like ball powders, then 748 will work well with both the 223 and the 308.

    I have found that 2230 will work also. I get really good results with my 223AI with 52g match bullets, and my 308 with 168g bullets.

    When they were available H450 was a wonderful powder for the 300WM and H870 for the 300RUM. :cry:
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    I came across this site for surplus powder and primers today. Some stuff is cheap, but like all reloader supply sites, the run in and out of stuff.

    www.hi-techammo.com ,

    and this site for brass and powder
    www.patsreloading.com

    Maybe they'll have what you want, maybe not, but they are another couple sources I haven't seen posted over here.The prices look good.

    Jeff

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    Pat's is good to go. I bought 1000 pieces of Winchester 300WM brass from them and it came pretty quick.

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    7000 grns per pound and you use about 25grns per .223 round allthough this could be a little more or a little less depending on bullet and powder used but a round answer is around 280 rounds per pound. I used the 25grns because 25gns of Varget and the 69 SMKs worked really good in my Savage .223.

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    I load about 21.5 grains of Benchmark, and 23.5 grains of AA2200, or 24.0grains of IMR4895, but Rob's rule of thumb will be about as ball park as you could get. If you buy some surplus and find you like it, buy as much as you can afford to.You may not ever be able to get it again.

    Jeff

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    I've done a lot of great reading here, but not posting, that is until I saw this subject. I'm not a rich man so my plans for a reserve have to be tailored to my budget. Towards that end I have to pick one or two cartridges that I think will fill the bill and stockpile for them. One idea I had that may help keep the supply of bullets flowing in the event of some sort of lib ban is bullet casting. I've been loading for 30 years, but never got into casting before. I think it's time to start.
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    Disclaimer: Relatively new reloader here...

    Will one powder be more accurate than another in a given rifle? For example, a couple weeks ago I loaded 4 different charge weights of H4895 and all did fairly well and I learned which charge weight of the four was the best. This time I loaded 6 different charge weights of IMR 4064. All other components stayed the same....same primer, same bullet, same brass, same OAL. The only two differences were that the first time I used the Lee dies that came with my press and have since purchased Hornady dies. I used the Hornady dies for my most recent research. The second difference is for the first batch (H4895) I used the press to insert the primers and the second batch (IMR 4064) I used an RCBS hand priming tool. I was blown away by the poor performance of all charge weights of IMR 4064.

    Loads tested are as follows (all brass once fired Fed full length sized and trimmed, all primers CCI BR2, all bullets 168 SMK, all OAL 2.800, all powder charges scaled);

    40.0 gr H4895
    40.5 gr H4895
    41.0 gr H4895
    41.5 gr H4895

    These all were decent groups.

    42.0 gr IMR 4064
    42.5 gr IMR 4064
    43.0 gr IMR 4064
    43.5 gr IMR 4064
    44.0 gr IMR 4064
    44.5 gr IMR 4064

    Not a single one of these were even worth measuring.

    Also notable is that most of the cartridges that I fired today (the ones with IMR 4064 loaded with Hornady dies) were hard to chamber. I can't figure out why this is either because my OAL remained the same and all were full length sized and trimmed.

    Any help would be of great appreciation.

    Thanks in Advance,

    Brian

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    Did you change bullet brands, or types? Different bullets may have different ogive lengths , where the bullet actually touches the rifling lands first.

    Your chamber may also be fouled from light loads that don't seal out burnt powder.

    Do your bullets extract with difficulty, or do they just load hard?

    Do you load with the same die every time (stupid question, but one never knows)?

    Have you compared your bullet to a factory load?

    Jeff

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