What Size For 22-250 for 300-400 yards?

What Size For 22-250 for 300-400 yards?

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    What Size For 22-250 for 300-400 yards?

    I am soon putting together a 22-250 bolt action for 300-400 yards varmints.

    My current choices are:

    22-250- I see it one the local WM shelves. besides the fact that 22-250 will do the job, one now has to factor in ammo availability in making a decision.

    Ruger American Rifle or Savage - I would favor the Ruger over the Savage but either would do. Depends on what I can get.

    Scope - I know to get quality or will regret it. Looking for some the size recommendation as I know very little about scopes.

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    A few years ago, before Ruger came out with the American series, I bought a Savage Axis. I was a "throw in the cab of the truck, drive around the ranch" gun. One of the magazine clips broke right away, had to get a new magazine. Accuracy is pretty poor, but for what I got it for, it is adequate. On of the biggest issues is the terrible trigger. The Ruger has a much better trigger than the Savage Axis, if those are the two you are comparing. A big issue with many entry level guns are that they are marketed for the "first gun" person, so the barrel is very light, for young hunters to keep the weight down. I doubt that you will get consistant accuracy for long range shooting with either. IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elk sniper View Post
    A few years ago, before Ruger came out with the American series, I bought a Savage Axis. I was a "throw in the cab of the truck, drive around the ranch" gun. One of the magazine clips broke right away, had to get a new magazine. Accuracy is pretty poor, but for what I got it for, it is adequate. On of the biggest issues is the terrible trigger. The Ruger has a much better trigger than the Savage Axis, if those are the two you are comparing. A big issue with many entry level guns are that they are marketed for the "first gun" person, so the barrel is very light, for young hunters to keep the weight down. I doubt that you will get consistant accuracy for long range shooting with either. IMO.

    What are the models with heavy barrels I should consider? I know of the Remington but that is about all.

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    Actually, Ruger does have one heavier barrel model in 22-250. M77 Mark II, 26" heavy barrel, two stage target trigger. I have shot this one in 22-250, very nice gun. Availabilty may be an issue. Ruger® M77® Mark II Target Bolt-Action Rifle Models

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    1:14 is a perfect twist on a 22-250 meant for varmints.

    I don't know why everyone thinks you need to run a 500gr bullet in a 22-250 to make it worthwhile. When dropping coyotes, the closer you are to 4000fps, the more success you'll have with the bang-flop every time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RugerFan View Post
    I am soon putting together a 22-250 bolt action for 300-400 yards varmints.

    My current choices are:

    22-250- I see it one the local WM shelves. besides the fact that 22-250 will do the job, one now has to factor in ammo availability in making a decision.

    Ruger American Rifle or Savage - I would favor the Ruger over the Savage but either would do. Depends on what I can get.

    Scope - I know to get quality or will regret it. Looking for some the size recommendation as I know very little about scopes.
    Which Savage are you talking about? The axis or 110-series (10,11,12)? If you are talking about the Axis vs the Ruger American. Both are about equal. Many shooters are getting excellent results with the Ruger MOA is not uncommon. The guys at BangSteel Long Range Shooting School really like them. The Axis isn't bad, will do everything the Ruger will do, I would just choose the Ruger. If you are talking about a 110-series Savage. Get that hands down. For the soul reason of customization. The American and the Axis are "as is" no new stock, no heavy barrels, etc. The cheapest Savage 110 or Remington 700 gives you a world of possibilities down the road.

    As far as scopes, the sky is the limit. I've been very impressed with the $200-range Nikons, and Redfield is highly regarded. The Weaver Grand Slam 4-16 is supposedly very good (I'm actually debating that one myself.

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    I, like yourself, am a Ruger fan, but you have the really cool title, lol. I have owned numerous Rugers over the years and wish I had everyone back I ever traded. I own No. 1's, 77's, mini 14, 10/22 plus hand guns. So my recomendation is tainted. Buy what you like, if you can afford the 77 MII you won't be disappointed IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orkan View Post
    1:14 is a perfect twist on a 22-250 meant for varmints.

    I don't know why everyone thinks you need to run a 500gr bullet in a 22-250 to make it worthwhile. When dropping coyotes, the closer you are to 4000fps, the more success you'll have with the bang-flop every time.
    Whoa SIR, you are assuming incorrectly.. Everybody DOES need to run 500 grain bullets in their 22-250's.


    Seriously though.. I agree, 1-14 will get it done. A 40 grain V-Max will decimate a coyote at 300-400 yards.

    I wouldn't push past that range with that light of a bullet though.. If you want to reach out further than that and still have the recommended velocity (typically about 1800 fps min) to reliably expand the projectile once entering soft tissue, you will need a bigger stick.

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    I'm running 50gr at 3800fps, and routinely dropping dogs from 300-500. 1:14 is perfect for coyotes and smaller vermin.

    However, I will say that a 1:8 22-250 running 75gr Amax makes a nice youth cartridge. Lots of crossover potential from coyotes to deer. But for those of us that have more than one rifle... a 22-250 is at home with 1:14 shooting lightweight bullets as fast as a bolt of lightning.

    Of course even a 22-250 isn't enough to slake my thirst. My main coyote rifle is a 22-243 running 40gr'ers at 4600fps.

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    Spot on, 50-55gr is where it is at for a 22-250 varminter. (Just to be cantankerous I like 55gr better though)

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