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    intermediates.jpgExperimental intermediate size action with the Montana PH, for comparison.


    It is an experimental action for our 416 HSM, to do our speed testing with


    and get a better action than Cheytac size actions, for bigger case ELR use,


    without going all way up to more expensive, huge actions.


    It is big long round style action that can take our 416 HSM, almost


    1.6" diameter action and .800" bolt, with locking lugs nearly as big as most


    BMG actions.... ED




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    Spearpoint ELR Roundup
    Ride the wind in Kansas
    August 11 & 12, 2018


    ELR match will be held at Spearpoint Ranch near Lincoln, Ks.
    Spearpoint $1000 Three Shot Challenge will be held Saturday Morning.


    ELR match will have 7 steel targets from 1500 yds out to 2900 yds.
    Competitors will fire 4 rounds at each target on each day for a total of 56 rounds.
    Scoring will emphasize first round hits with declining point values per attempt.


    Calibers up to and including .50 BMG welcome.
    All shooting will be from a prone position.


    Cost is $80 per shooter.
    An additional $20 for those wishing to try the Spearpoint Challenge
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    Here is picture of the bolt from the experimental action,


    with our 416 HSM case in it. Note the amount of the


    base size of locking lugs, the amount of area on the bolt..









    Here is link to guy doing special 585 HE in the EU,


    Good pictures............www.585he.cz


    We tested intermediate action with a 700HE barrel we had here.


    Just temporary to test strength. 1000 gr over 3100..


    Action worked fine.. Ed.
    Ed Hubel

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    Here is video of early water barrel test of the


    12ga From Hell, from years ago.







    Here is picture from that video..









    Here is the intermediate size action for 416 HSM with test barrel, .Ed


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    In 416 HSM got a 415 gr long target bullet 3800,

    with plain barrel, no brake, on intermediate action,

    Our 416 HE gets same 415gr bullet 3300.Ed
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    Here is picture of our 416HSM cases with screw in shellholders,


    for Ammomaster, etc, and slip in shellholders for regular presses


    Also have some for big LEE Classic and Smart Reloader presses..


    A 378 WEA MAG in picture for comparison...




    Second is stacks of 416 HSM, about a third fireformed


    and the rest to be fireformed... So far total about 1700, Ed













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    Bob Snapp, 90, the great Gun Craftsman, of


    Clare, Michigan, passed away Jan 28th....


    He was an esteemed member of the


    American Custom Gunmakers Guild,


    Being its president in 1992..He liked


    working with Martini Cadet singleshot rifles


    .Worked with guys testing armor long time ago.


    Maybe the 1st to do 20mm necked down to 50cal


    We lost a great friend,,,Ed
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    .....




    It is possible rig up holders for many types setups.,


    About shellholder supply for big cases,


    RCBS and others make slip in holders for shotgun cases


    that can work or reworked for big rimmed rifle cases...


    Here are various sizes.......


    16ga-- .810" rim,........ 20ga-- .760" rim,....


    24ga-- .725" rim,....... 28ga .680" rim....


    Ch4d and Buffalo Arms also have these larger shellholders...




    We fireform the 416 HSM with 65 gr of medium speed


    surplus powder, with rest of case filled with farina


    and grits mix, with a play dough plug in the neck.


    It is loud, so we shoot it into big container through a barrel size


    size hole, so the sound is muffled, so it doesn't deafen us..




    It is great getting more companies making 416 caliber bullets,


    long target and bore rider bullets. Ed..






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    Wonder if a PTRD with 5 ft long barrel is stable enough


    for ELR , rebarrel to 416 and use our 416 HSM, 500 gr bullet ....


    .Here is up north guy using 585 HE in a PTRD with inserts,


    Light load.....Inserts are in the shape of the 14.5mm case....




    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyab...ature=youtu.be




    HERE ia video, 585 Hubel Express and water jugs - slow motion


    750 gr with 155gr RE17, just a moderate load.....Ed




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    20mm Vulcan is a big case that works ok, without having


    the sides made too thick...They have thinner sides


    than smaller cases guys are getting that have the sides


    made too thick and won't extract easy or work with high pressures.




    Here Barnard P Cheytac bolt that would do for our 416 HSM..Ed......


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