Is the .30-06 Dead ???

Is the .30-06 Dead ???

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    Is the .30-06 Dead ???

    What do y'all think? The .30-06 is way too good a cartridge to let it die.

    My next rifle purchase will be a Remington 700 Long Range chambered for the .30-06. I want to mount a Leupold MK 4 6.5x20 scope with mildot crosshair, 1/4 minute adjustment knobs and side focus, in Badger 30mm rings on a 20 moa Badger all steel rail. Add a Timney trigger and PT&G all steel bottom metal and a Harris benchrest bipod and there you have my new rifle. I am thinking that I could work up a safe load to push the 175 gr Tipped SMK at 2800 ft/sec using WW cases, CCI-Br2 primers and IMR-4350 powder. With this bullet's high BC, .545, This bullet will stay above the speed of sound to 1200 yards or more.

    What do y'all think?

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    Dave (Bubba) Thornblom

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    I have considered a 30-06 build. It is a great round, but for the same price you can build a 300 wm. If you do get the 06 you might look into heavier bullets than the 175. If your twist rate will handle it the 208 amax is where I would start.
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    We chambered one up in a Desert Tech SRS not long ago. Elmer Fudd's are using just as much of it as ever.

    You say "high bc" in regard to the 175SMK... but it really isn't. Also, the launch velocity you cite, is only 100fps over what is pretty comfortable to achieve with a 308. Considering it's a long action cartridge, that's not much improvement. Then consider that 100fps or so doesn't really change the operational capability of a bullet. Then if that isn't convincing enough, consider that it takes about an additional 10 grains of powder to do it.

    Compare that against a 6.5CM in a short action with a 140vld with a bc of .612 being launched at 2800fps, and there isn't much of a case to be made for the 30.06, with its far less efficient properties and much increased recoil.

    Bottom line is that the ol' .06 isn't that appealing of a cartridge compared to modern offerings. Don't fret though, It will hang around forever due to its large following among hunters and the nostalgia it carries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thornblom View Post
    What do y'all think? The .30-06 is way too good a cartridge to let it die.

    My next rifle purchase will be a Remington 700 Long Range chambered for the .30-06. I want to mount a Leupold MK 4 6.5x20 scope with mildot crosshair, 1/4 minute adjustment knobs and side focus, in Badger 30mm rings on a 20 moa Badger all steel rail. Add a Timney trigger and PT&G all steel bottom metal and a Harris benchrest bipod and there you have my new rifle. I am thinking that I could work up a safe load to push the 175 gr Tipped SMK at 2800 ft/sec using WW cases, CCI-Br2 primers and IMR-4350 powder. With this bullet's high BC, .545, This bullet will stay above the speed of sound to 1200 yards or more.

    What do y'all think?

    Sincerely,
    Dave (Bubba) Thornblom
    As for me, if you like the 308, but want a little more. With out the kick of a 300 Win Mag, yes the 30.06 is what you want. It's not as hard on the barrels as 300 Win Mag. Not a bad round.
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    For the sake of a little pot stirring... compare the 30.06 to a 284win or 280AI. When comparing a 06 to a 308, it's easy to get lost in the fact its short action vs long. When you compare a 06 to its peers, it gets left in the dust by a wide margin.

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    Well, I already have the rifle. So don't beat me up too bad. Oh, by the way the twist rate on the .30-06 is 1 turn in 10" so it will handle bullets heavier than 175 grains. I like the .30-06 and I always wanted to have a good rifle that would handle high BC bullets at good velocity in .30-06. Mainly just to see what I could accomplish with it. Some of the 180 and 185 grain Bergers would be useful also. And, to tell the truth, the .30-06 is about all the recoil I can tolerate, so no way on the .300 WM. I had a Ruger #1 in .375 H&H mag and it beat me up unmercifully.

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    Dave (Bubba) Thornblom

    PS: As the old saying goes, "It is something to do."
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    Quote Originally Posted by thornblom View Post
    What do y'all think? The .30-06 is way too good a cartridge to let it die.

    My next rifle purchase will be a Remington 700 Long Range chambered for the .30-06. I want to mount a Leupold MK 4 6.5x20 scope with mildot crosshair, 1/4 minute adjustment knobs and side focus, in Badger 30mm rings on a 20 moa Badger all steel rail. Add a Timney trigger and PT&G all steel bottom metal and a Harris benchrest bipod and there you have my new rifle. I am thinking that I could work up a safe load to push the 175 gr Tipped SMK at 2800 ft/sec using WW cases, CCI-Br2 primers and IMR-4350 powder. With this bullet's high BC, .545, This bullet will stay above the speed of sound to 1200 yards or more.

    What do y'all think?

    Sincerely,
    Dave (Bubba) Thornblom
    I think you have a plan. Just for kicks, take a look at 190 & 200 grain SMK's. No, I don't think your a Bubba. Keep us posted on updates.

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    The 06 can get 220smk's going "just" fast enough to start having some fun. They are like launching a locomotive.

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    Staying in the 30 caliber camp:: one has "choices"::
    short action:
    30-30 -- just not enough for a long range gun, perfect for short/medium range deer hunting in a light rifle
    308 WIN -- just barely enough for long range
    300 WSM -- just a hair less than the 300 WM; medium step up over 30-06; a 30 caliber with significant range

    long action:
    30-06 -- a bit more than 308 but not as much as 300 WM or 300 WSM
    300 WM -- a very capable range round; a serious 30 caliber
    300 RUM -- kicks like a mule; a bit much for most:: can launch the 240 gr-ers
    300 SAUM -- kicks like a mule; a bit much for most:: can launch the 240 gr-ers

    // minus some Ackley variants which add a tincture of additional capability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchAlsup View Post
    Staying in the 30 caliber camp:: one has "choices"::
    short action:
    30-30 -- just not enough for a long range gun, perfect for short/medium range deer hunting in a light rifle
    308 WIN -- just barely enough for long range
    300 WSM -- just a hair less than the 300 WM; medium step up over 30-06; a 30 caliber with significant range

    long action:
    30-06 -- a bit more than 308 but not as much as 300 WM or 300 WSM
    300 WM -- a very capable range round; a serious 30 caliber
    300 RUM -- kicks like a mule; a bit much for most:: can launch the 240 gr-ers
    300 SAUM -- kicks like a mule; a bit much for most:: can launch the 240 gr-ers

    // minus some Ackley variants which add a tincture of additional capability.

    The 300 SAUM is a short action it was Remington version of the 300 short mag
    Cliffy

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