.308 long range package.

.308 long range package.

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    .308 long range package.

    I am not new to rifle shooting , but definitely new to longer distance rifle shooting . All my rifle shooting experience is up to 200 yards.
    I am thinking about putting together a longer range package and need all the advice I can get from experienced long range shooters .

    Here is my criteria :

    Caliber .308 ( 168/175 match)

    Rifle has to be bolt action and factory production . ( no custom jobs)

    Scope : 30mm and standard production rings and mounts

    So basically nothing custom , just something I can go and buy.

    THANK YOU .
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    You forgot to mention the budget.
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    Why .308?

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    Why 308?
    Why not custom?
    Why 30mm?

    Each of these is a very limiting factor. When stacked together they really compound.

    The big question has already been asked: What is your budget?
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    .308 long range package.

    Why 308?
    And just to be clear, I can justify and support 308 with many positive reasons. But it is not me it’s you.
    But if you must get a rem700 5R with nightforce 5.5-22 that should take you to 1000 yards and be done with it. This will run you about $3k.
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    Here is a factory package
    https://www.remingtondefense.com/sni...m24/25679.html

    .308 (168/175) Check
    Factory production Check
    30mm factory rings Darn right check
    1000 yards capable? Dang right!

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    So the 6.5 Creedmoor uses the same case as the 308 and is effective to 1500 yards where the 308 hits the wall at 1000. Why would you go with 308? You can even buy a barrel in 308 and make no other changes if you want to switch back and forth. The 6.5 is ballistically superior in every way and it's everywhere. All major sniper teams have switched over to it.The military has always known that the 308 is barely able to reach 1000. That's what they use 300 Win Mag and the Lapua. How far do you want to shoot when you say long range?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckP65 View Post
    So the 6.5 Creedmoor uses the same case as the 308 and is effective to 1500 yards where the 308 hits the wall at 1000. Why would you go with 308? You can even buy a barrel in 308 and make no other changes if you want to switch back and forth. The 6.5 is ballistically superior in every way and it's everywhere. All major sniper teams have switched over to it.The military has always known that the 308 is barely able to reach 1000. That's what they use 300 Win Mag and the Lapua. How far do you want to shoot when you say long range?
    The .308 does not have this magical "wall" that the bullet just stops working at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sfleo View Post
    I am not new to rifle shooting , but definitely new to longer distance rifle shooting . All my rifle shooting experience is up to 200 yards.
    I am thinking about putting together a longer range package and need all the advice I can get from experienced long range shooters .

    Here is my criteria :

    Caliber .308 ( 168/175 match)

    Rifle has to be bolt action and factory production . ( no custom jobs)

    Scope : 30mm and standard production rings and mounts

    So basically nothing custom , just something I can go and buy.

    THANK YOU .
    If I understand your post, 308 168gr Federal GMM will not get you to 1000. I tried the 168 and the round petered out at around 800yds. I had no trouble with 175's. BTW I have seen some threads that suggest that the new .308 200gr Sierra Match King might extend the 1000 yard wall. My range I shoot at is a 1000 yd range so I haven't had issues with the wall as it were. I do know that with my 308 175SMK 43.2 grains of IMR 4064, Lapua brass, I got about 2685 FPS measured by Magnetospeed Chrono, I got to 1000 with 10.2 mils elevation, my 6.5CM gets there with 8.4mil. I can use my tree with the 6.5CM, I have to crank elevation for the 308.

    As another respondent to your post indicated, what is your definition of Long Dist? A 308 with the right bullet will get you there and with the new sierra bullet maybe a bit more but IMHO the 6.5 will get you further with less recoil.
    I'm going to chime in with the superiority of the 6.5 round over the 308.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martino1 View Post
    If I understand your post, 308 168gr Federal GMM will not get you to 1000. I tried the 168 and the round petered out at around 800yds. I had no trouble with 175's. BTW I have seen some threads that suggest that the new .308 200gr Sierra Match King might extend the 1000 yard wall. My range I shoot at is a 1000 yd range so I haven't had issues with the wall as it were. I do know that with my 308 175SMK 43.2 grains of IMR 4064, Lapua brass, I got about 2685 FPS measured by Magnetospeed Chrono, I got to 1000 with 10.2 mils elevation, my 6.5CM gets there with 8.4mil. I can use my tree with the 6.5CM, I have to crank elevation for the 308.

    As another respondent to your post indicated, what is your definition of Long Dist? A 308 with the right bullet will get you there and with the new sierra bullet maybe a bit more but IMHO the 6.5 will get you further with less recoil.
    I'm going to chime in with the superiority of the 6.5 round over the 308.
    I agree with you, the 6.5 is a ballisticly superior round especially for factory ammo.

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