Well, I have both, so I hope I can help. The .30-06 is a very good round and the .270 as you said is a -06 trimmed down to a .270 (a .277 to be exact) calliber. The most popular .270 bullet weight is 130 and I use a 150 grain for my .30-06. The two, if you are hunting, are so close there isn't a whole lot of difference. But the .270 has a couple of advantages to the .30-06 it doesn't kick as much, it shoots flatter, and has a higher sectional density (.242 in 130gr for .270 vs. .226 for 150gr. for the .30-06) I forget what the BC of those two are, but I think the .270 does have a higher, I'm not for sure though. What would you be using for?
If I had to choose one I would pick the .270 because it shoots flatter and gives less recoil, but the two are very good cartidges, they will be around for a very long time to come. You can't go wrong with either one, is what I believe.
I have been reading here about the 06, being a great accurate round. My dad has a 270 that I take hunting, and was wondering how it compared to the ever popular 06. What kind of groups ae you getting at like 100 yards? With both.
Well, I don't shoot my .270 near as much as my .30-06. This is because I've done so much to my .30-06 such as: a muzzle brake (it kicks less than my .308), I had it glass bedded, and a brand new scope but on it, and I just sighted it in with very good hunting ammo. So I haven't yet gotten to shoot groups to see how tight it's shooting. I only have shot my .270 once, not because I don't like it, I had so much money invested in my .30-06 that I use the 06 as my all around hunting rifle. Next time I go out to the range, I'll take both of them and report back.
While the .270 shoots flatter and has less recoil, you can't put a 220 gr. bullet in one. A 30'06 can shoot up to 220gr projectiles (maybe even more?). While you won't get the same ballistics, you have a LOT more energy downrange with the big bullet. Wind and other factors also have less effect on a heavier bullet.
Why would you want to shoot one of those pigs It would tear your arm off, the 165's we shot through yours are worse than the 300 grain 45-70 I was shooting last night. I think you can fit a 180 mabye a 190 in there.
I have both, and if I had to stick with only one it would be the 30-06. With bullets of similiar BC there's not enough difference in trajectory to make a real difference, so that's a weak argument in favor of the 270. Plus, the 30 caliber bullet is going to buck the wind a little better at longer ranges. The 30-06 has a MUCH wider selection of bullet weights and types available in both factory loads and reloading components. It also is a far superior choice for larger game such as elk, moose and bear. I have killed several nilgai with single shots from my 30-06 using 180gr. Nosler partitions. These imports from India are similiar in size and tenacity to eland and are extremely tough animals to put down. I have seen seemingly good hits from 270s using 150gr. partitions fail to produce a quick, clean kill. Yes, the 270 produces less recoil, but the difference is not really enough to make a bad shooter into a good one. Besides, with all the high-tech recoil pads available now, this is a bad excuse. I don't mean to damn the 270 with faint praise, it's a great cartridge and I have no plans to part with mine. But if you have to choose between the two, the 30-06 is going to be much more capable as an all-around rifle than the 270 could ever hope to be.
the 06 is gonna be good enough for any game in north america
i have a friend who took down a grizzly with a .270 but this would definitely not be my first choice for them
if you are hunting deer the .270 is more than sufficient
if you are hunting bigger game like elk, moose, bear then the .30-06 will be better
In the end if your taking out a moose or a deer with a .30-06 or a .270 is bullet placement. The .270 shoots flatter but the .30-06 has more energy, if your hunting you'll never know the difference. Either of the two have there advantages to each other, but you can't go wrong with either.
Just wanted to put in my two cents worth...from what experience I have both .270 and 30-06 are excellent rounds...Love my 70 classic in 270 for deer...And the ought six is good for dang near everything, as has been said...my favorite thick brush gun is an M1 Garand
I find the damage done to bigger game (moose) is a lot better with the 06 with 180 grain rounds so thats what I perfer on bigger stuff...The old round is really at her best with heavier rounds.
The .270 can be a lil more accurate sometimes though it seems...but groups I have seen from a few rifles have erratic shots a lot...I know every rifle can produce a flyer tho.
Accuracy depends mainly, with few exceptions, on the rifle and individual round, NOT caliber. And the difference in recoil between a 45-70 with a 300gr bullet and an '06 w/165gr. is due mainly to the fact that the '06 cartrige is necked and is burning about the same amount of powder.
Oh, you might want to use 220's depending on what youre shooting at. But yeah, I think they'd HURT. :x
I see what ya mean, for sure...Yeah, 220's would work like a charm alright, especially on those moose you guys chase in Alaska! Those suckers are built like tanks lol. I like my 180's for the ones here, premium ammo of course
You can get 2423fps without trying too hard. Faster if you don't mind risking blowing your gun up in your face.
Yeah, moose get big. I know guys that hunt them with .270's, though, and as far as I know they haven't lost any. Just don't take poor shots and make 'em count. Bullet placement is everything.
me personally i would go with a .270 for close range shooting while hunting because it has less recoil, but i planned on shooting out past 400 yards i would proably want to go with the 30-06 because like the others have said it has better down range ballistics
just my 2 cents