[upstaterider2003]

I tried posting this last night. I don't know if it got rejected or if I screwed it up TWICE.. I tried to post it twice.

anyhow... I want to buy a gun that is accuarte and can take a deer at 1000 yards. (i would rather not discuss ethics behind such a shot.. got yelled at on another site about it)

If I get a chance to take one and KNow I am capable of it and that the gun is too then...

I have been told a 308 is the way to go.. but is not lethal to 1000 yards
338 will destroy meat at any range. I can get a weaherby 338 Vanguard with 2 boxes of ammo and a leupold scope for $1000

I have been leaning towards 300 wsm or 300 wm.. but have been told 300RUM...

I will reload for it eventually but will buy the ammo first to get it zero'd and check its accuracy. I am thinking I may get a TAC ops but think I may be overdoing it... I will use it for shooting at the range and hunting Deer...

Any help suggestions or ideas on the best rifle for the job?

 

[upstaterider2003]

thanks for your candor

didn't sound like a lecture at all.
I have been steered away from 338 just simply due to
A. Ammo availability and components
B. Apparnetly the bleeding out is done so quickly that the side of the deer the bullet exits leaves a huge hole and ruins a lot of meat.

Now, I love teh thought of using a 338 and saw a guy shooting antelope with a 338 weatherby at 1100 yards...on uTUBE. yet everyone else but him tells me to run from a 338 Weatherby. And from what I hear about Shawn Carlock (makes a 338 EDGE) his comments mean a lot... And I love teh idea of owning that kind of fire power. One of my Brother in laws was also a Sniper for a time and is a very precise engineer type... who als0 suggested staying away from 338's and weatherbys becasue of accuracy. The other brother in law has the weatherby vanguard and scope for sale...

With all that said is the 300 RUM hard to find pieces for? Will I start with a model 700 and go from there?

I want a gun that will last. I am not afraid of carrying a heavy ass gun if that is the compromise from having to buy two guns...

thanks again for your comments.. Noted, considered and no further along in my solution.. :lol: just cuz everyone has a good opinion... If my max opportunity is say... 700 -800 yard for deer, but 1000 at a target.. what should I be looking at???

 

[upstaterider2003]

My "real" deer gun is a 6.5-284.

regarding the quote "My "real" deer gun is a 6.5-284." ...

in your honest opinion is that a lethal deer gun at 1000 yards... and how much more economical and flexible is it regarding burning a barrel, reloading and finding components as well as bullet options...? what was your load data for that?

and.. do you aim at the deer face? :? or woukld you consider that a miss for another point of aim, like the spine...?

 

[upstaterider2003]

thanks for bringing it back...

.... on track.

I have been reading the replies to my question for a few days and actually had to go back to see what my question was..

I think 300 WM is where I am headed... 300 RUM seems a lot more expensive to re load. 308 is cheap and available but I know that as soon as I bring that in the field every great opportunity will be out side 600 yards mark...
The 300 WM will let me chase down White tail to 1000 if I see the right set up (wind, light etc etc all being considered)

I can reload for about half a 338 cost....

I can take it to ME or New Brunswick and take moose, or Bear with it inside 750....

i am still very willing and glad to hear about the best set ups and comments around this.. as I am now in search of the components to have this built... I am looking at sending actions to "spec ops" (.25 MOA guarantee) or HS precision... Shawn Carlock is known for the 338 edge... from what I can tell... but need to see what other guns he builds...

would love to keep a damn accurate 300 WM with proper scope to under $1800.... then I start buying the relaoding components. dies, loaders, powder primers,.. and set up shop....would prefer a more tactical style stock.

Looking at the Knoxx recoil system Axiom stock or a Butt Stock.. depending on what I end up with... (55% - 95% reduced recoil)

LAst question... I have a 7 year old Boy and 10 year old girl who both want to shoot. Santa brought a Red Ryder BB gun this year for each of them... i was thinking of the Trifecta as their first rifle to use with me at the range... can ayone direct me to where I can learn the best way to tecah a kid to shoot... knowing how and teaching are two very different things...

love the site.. thanks for your input...