... or maybe people should stop talking as if they are an authority on a subject when they are not.I see the .308 as a little more versatile platform than a 6.5 that can better meet a person's needs who likes to target shoot, like out to 1000 yrds, AND hunts somewhat large game (where you can use more energy to bring them down quickly). The .308 typically comes in rather short barrels (like 20"), which also makes for easier packing around and getting into position when hunting. And if you're not into reloading, the .308 is easier to find factory ammo, more diverse ammo and cheaper ammo.
There's a lot a great things about the 6.5CM, particularly when it comes to long range shooting. But one really needs to carefully look at the intended use of a particular platform to determine if it really is better "in every aspect" than another.
Not speaking as an authority, but I do have personal opinions and reasons for them that can be taken for what it is. And I welcome anyone of authority (or otherwise) to correct me and explain.... or maybe people should stop talking as if they are an authority on a subject when they are not.
308win w/175SMK @ 2700fps = 600yds = 1730fps, 1163 ft/lbs energy
6.5CM w/140berger @ 2750fps = 600yds = 1969fps, 1206 ft/lbs energy
The 6.5 Creedmoor is more versatile than the 308. This is not even open for discussion. The above figures shine the 308 in the best light possible, with 2700fps being extremely fast for a 175 and most rifles will not be able to do that... and it still loses.
Actually your post was very authoritative. It stated the 308 hit with more energy than the 6.5 creedmoor as quite matter of fact. Dead wrong, and there's not even an argument to be made.Not speaking as an authority, but I do have personal opinions and reasons for them that can be taken for what it is.
Though I wasn't referring to just match grade quality ammo, is this also so for all factory ammo one can get for either caliber?You also stated that it's easier to find factory ammo, cheaper ammo, for 308... and that too is dead wrong. Match grade quality 6.5 creedmoor ammo is significantly cheaper than most offerings available for 308.
This forum discusses precision rifles, and its associated ammo. If you would like to compare bulk 308 FMJ's served in metal boxes from "bob's surplus" then 308 obviously has cheaper ammo available. Yet if you are considering precision rifle offerings... then yes, the 6.5 Creed has the cheaper ammo.Though I wasn't referring to just match grade quality ammo, is this also so for all factory ammo one can get for either caliber?
Most don’t use the 168’s, but yes they fall off fast past 500.Hornady Ballistics chart:
308win w/168gr ELD Match @ 2840fps = 500yds - 2029fps, 1535 ft/lbs energy
6.5 Creedmoor w/147 gr ELD Match @ 2695fps = 500yds - 2092fps, 1428 ft/lbs energy
This is from Hornady's Ballistic chart. They only take it to 500 yards.
I'm guessing that must be the distance where the 6.5 CM starts to excel and 308 diminishes?