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Hey I'm new to the sight and I am having a problem choosing a new elk rifle. I elk hunt in Wyoming and have chances to shoot decent bulls but am not comfortable with my dads old .270 win past 350+ yards at an elk. I have decided between the 7mag and the .308 any input would be nice. Also there is very heavy wind where I am at. Thanks.
 

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Wow. Those two rounds are on opposite ends of the spectrum. I would be choosing between 7 mag and 300WM if I were considering a magnum. A 270 will actually have better ballistics and more energy as a round than the 308 if you can find a round that will shoot accurately in the gun.

7mm is flat shooting and has a good selection of bullets, but flat shooting is not as important past 300 yards in my opinion because you will need to set the scope anyway. 300wm with heavy bullets will buck the wind well. 308 would work, but would be at the low end of energy for what I would choose for elk hunting.
 

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Thanks for the help. The reason I was thinking of a .308 was so I can shoot antelope and deer with out totally destroying them like the 300WM.
 

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This being a long range forum as opposed to a hunting forum, you may be a bit more limited in what you get for answers. I really don't know how many hunters are represented here. I'll give you the little bit of knowledge I have on this.

There are some calibers that can be used for wide variety of game but once you get into the larger game like elk and moose, it may be hard to find a caliber that can do that well and still be used to deer hunt (see below for what I don't know about this). If you are a really good shot and are close enough, you can hunt big game with a .308. Heck, hit an elk in the right place with a .260 and it will go down, but that's a really risk shot. What you really need is a lot of kinetic energy when the bullet hits and that's what magnum calibers provide.

That's pretty much it in my knowledge when it comes to hunting. But I'm also pretty sure that there are a lot of different ammo choices these days for some calibers that are useful for different jobs. Whether or not that is the case with the 7mm mag, I don't know but it's worth looking into. Perhaps that caliber can be made to be much more useful.
 

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I have both and anything under 600 yards both calibers are very good for elk. Past 600 yards or so I would prefer the 7mm. The 7mm Rem mag is my favorite all around hunting bullet.
 

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You can take an elk with a 308 the one thing that is going to come into play is propper bullet weight and bullet design. you want something like a trophy bonded bear claw that is going to be good expansion and maximum bullet weight retention that way as it hits the Heavy Muscle and heavy tissue of the elk it maintains its weight and doesn't break apart then when you go to hunt something like a deer or an antelope you can choose a lighter bullet with a higher level of expansion because the tissue will be softer. Also consider with a 308 having less muzzle energy than a 7 mm or a 300 Win Mag your shot placement will be more important as you do not want to waste the terminal energy of that round. Personally with a 308 a 175grain bonded hunting bullet would be my minimum for an elk.

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Thanks for the help. The reason I was thinking of a .308 was so I can shoot antelope and deer with out totally destroying them like the 300WM.
Then go with a 30.06, it moves the rounds little faster then the 308. Look at the Remington 700 LR in 26'' barrel. Best of luck.
 

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Gunwerks, 7mm can do it!
Yes it can, if the OP wants to spend 5700.00 for a basic rifle with no optics.
With optics from Gunwerks.....8k+

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Vortex Gen 2 4.5-27x56 EBR-2C Mrad
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Rem 700sps Tac .308 20"
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Damn I wish I could of done that when I was 12, but honestly I don't think my dad would have ever let me shoot a 7mm rem mag at that age

-1911
 

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I coyote hunt with an 06 using non expanding rounds (like jacketed and all copper bullets) for maximum organ shock with minimal pelt damage. I also have hunted deer with the 06 and it's great, with 180 grain bullets and a good shot placement you could take an elk at 900 with the 06 without the recoil and ammo prices of the 300 win mag or 7mag. Plus if you plan on shooting a decent amount the 06 has something like twice the barrel life or more of the 300 win mag and 7mm.
 

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It really depends upon the terrain, range and the rifle you feel most comfortable with. There are some shooters (myself not included) who claimed to have bagged an elk with a 6.5 CM. For 300 meters in sparse vegetation, I would choose a 06 or 303. For 600+ meters, a 280 AI or 7mm Weatherby Mag. For a good brush gun, a short barreled magnum or a 280 AI might suffice. Now between 300-600 meters, I'll let you choose (don't rule out the 308).
 
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