Accuracy International Rifles & Stock
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I would like to see a straight up comparison on the AI, HS, and Mc stocks preformed on the same action. Would like to see how all there different claims hold up.
I already have a review of the rifles up... though an update may be in order.
In terms of the stocks, that is a good idea. Perhaps in the future. if I had to guess, the McMillan would perform best, as it would have glass bedding. But I could be proven wrong.
MEL
In terms of the stocks, that is a good idea. Perhaps in the future. if I had to guess, the McMillan would perform best, as it would have glass bedding. But I could be proven wrong.
MEL
I've seen the HS Precision evaluation, but cannot seem to find the AI - ahhh - I see it the Super Magnum under UK. If 1/2 MOA is all they are talking about (which everyone gives you), then I guess I fail to see the justification for an extremely expensive stock?
Jeffvn:
You forget something, that's the performance of the rifle out-of-box, direct from the store, no customization, and durable enough for military field use and using standard ammo. My issued rifle is a modified AI design, and the smallest group I've shot is 0.3MOA, prone on the ground, no mat or anything, and bipod.
I could also custom-order a rifle, based on an AI stock, have it assembled by a builder, and get it to shoot .25MOA, if I'm willing to wait long enough, but it's not guaranteed that it will be as durable as the issued rifle I have, especially not in arctic conditions.
You forget something, that's the performance of the rifle out-of-box, direct from the store, no customization, and durable enough for military field use and using standard ammo. My issued rifle is a modified AI design, and the smallest group I've shot is 0.3MOA, prone on the ground, no mat or anything, and bipod.
I could also custom-order a rifle, based on an AI stock, have it assembled by a builder, and get it to shoot .25MOA, if I'm willing to wait long enough, but it's not guaranteed that it will be as durable as the issued rifle I have, especially not in arctic conditions.
I think Mel buys them "off the rack" for exactly that purpose. To determine the accuracy, tolerenaces and durability of a rifle offered by a company that we could buy without having to pay any extra $$$ to have it accurized or beefed up for reliability purposes.
Like we've discussed in other threads most any rifle (although a wooden stock would not be a good choice) can, with enough extra money and gunsmithing poured into it, shoot between 1/2 and 1/4 MOA groups and be made to work in a tactical environment. The usefullness of Mel's comparrisons, at least from my perspecitives, is to see what I could buy if I had the $$$ and how well it shoots out of the box.
Like we've discussed in other threads most any rifle (although a wooden stock would not be a good choice) can, with enough extra money and gunsmithing poured into it, shoot between 1/2 and 1/4 MOA groups and be made to work in a tactical environment. The usefullness of Mel's comparrisons, at least from my perspecitives, is to see what I could buy if I had the $$$ and how well it shoots out of the box.
Yes, and the AW series rifles can shoot 0.5MOA straight out of the box, even in Lappland in the middle of January, when it's -50 degrees celsius as tested by Swedish jaeger snipers. And the stock and barrel are extremely durable, surviving 10m drops. For those who don't know much about materials, many metals and composites become extremely brittle when subjected to cold, especially for long durations. The scope and mounts survived too. How many other rifles do you know that can handle that out of the box? There aren't too many other rifles that are reliable and durable enough for that. I.e, you kinda get what you pay for.
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Jeffvn:
I have a Accuracy International stock on my remington 700 and I noticed a decent drop in accuracy over the HS stock that came standard. (bout .5 to about .3moa) This may be due to the fact that I feel more comfortable on pistol shaped grips and the AI stock just feels more natural to me. Keep in mind the stock has many adavantages over the standard sniper style stocks in my eyes anyway.
#1. It feels comfortable in a variety of shooting positions (not just prone)
#2. 10 round mags....this can be very handy in case you use different ammo (shooting though glass, long distances, fragable, ect). Can be much faster then unloading and loading a standard stock.
#3. The stage 2 version has a folding stock. This cuts down your case size and make the rifle less prone to hitting a wall or doorway when slung.
I guess it just depends on what you need one for....not to mention the thing is weather bulletproof.
Just my 2cents.
Jeffvn:
I have a Accuracy International stock on my remington 700 and I noticed a decent drop in accuracy over the HS stock that came standard. (bout .5 to about .3moa) This may be due to the fact that I feel more comfortable on pistol shaped grips and the AI stock just feels more natural to me. Keep in mind the stock has many adavantages over the standard sniper style stocks in my eyes anyway.
#1. It feels comfortable in a variety of shooting positions (not just prone)
#2. 10 round mags....this can be very handy in case you use different ammo (shooting though glass, long distances, fragable, ect). Can be much faster then unloading and loading a standard stock.
#3. The stage 2 version has a folding stock. This cuts down your case size and make the rifle less prone to hitting a wall or doorway when slung.
I guess it just depends on what you need one for....not to mention the thing is weather bulletproof.
Just my 2cents.
That's why I want the stock / rifle comparision. I currently shoot McMillan stocks on both my rifles. (My PSS stock cracked and switched to McMillan for its replacement). I've been intrigued by the AI since the first time I saw it. Living in Houston, the weather is not a problem unless hot and humid and windy is not to your liking. Cold is not an issue (we had exactly 1 night below 35 degree this winter).
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Just depends on what you like really. I forgot to mention that you can raise the cheekpeice and the shoulder butt has extentions that you can take in or out to adjust to fit you.
Also if you use a Accuracy Internation (parker hale) bi pob it pops right in and pops right back out with the push of a button. I prefer that bi-pod over a harris any day of the week. Not only can you adjust the lenght per leg inch by inch but because of how it swivels makes it easy on uneven ground or to follow your target without dragging the legs across the ground.
Just depends on what you like really. I forgot to mention that you can raise the cheekpeice and the shoulder butt has extentions that you can take in or out to adjust to fit you.
Also if you use a Accuracy Internation (parker hale) bi pob it pops right in and pops right back out with the push of a button. I prefer that bi-pod over a harris any day of the week. Not only can you adjust the lenght per leg inch by inch but because of how it swivels makes it easy on uneven ground or to follow your target without dragging the legs across the ground.
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Realistically, I think a stock is too much of a personalized piece of equipment to be review seriously. I think everyone has a little different liking when it comes to stocks.
It is like comparing Ford n' Chevy, both get the job done, but different people choose different brands because what they like better.
As another example, think of trigger pull. Some people like it 2lbs, some like it 3, others like it in-between, and some like it higher. It is personal preference.
It is like comparing Ford n' Chevy, both get the job done, but different people choose different brands because what they like better.
As another example, think of trigger pull. Some people like it 2lbs, some like it 3, others like it in-between, and some like it higher. It is personal preference.
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Re: Ai
http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/AICS_Upgrade.asp
It is still pretty old, so I would also like to see a review of results shooting the same rifle on an AICS, a McMillan A4/A5, and an HS Precision stock. It is a lot of money to drop on a stock and I know a lot of stock selection is personal preference but I would still like to see if there is really any difference, accuracy wise, between the three.
This is about the only review I have found so far, comparing the same 700P, with an HS stock, then with an AICS. Sounds like your results are very similar to what this guy got with his AICS.FLEA said:I have a Accuracy International stock on my remington 700 and I noticed a decent drop in accuracy over the HS stock that came standard. (bout .5 to about .3moa)
http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/AICS_Upgrade.asp
It is still pretty old, so I would also like to see a review of results shooting the same rifle on an AICS, a McMillan A4/A5, and an HS Precision stock. It is a lot of money to drop on a stock and I know a lot of stock selection is personal preference but I would still like to see if there is really any difference, accuracy wise, between the three.
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The AICS 2.0 stock is the absolutely best of the best!
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I am getting rid of my two AICS 1.5 short action stocks. The design is good for prone shooting but is lacking in the weight and ergonomics department. The stock is 5.25 pounds out of the box. Add a AMU profile barreled receiver, scope , and loaded 10 round magazine and you have a 20 pound rifle or close to it. I like the fact that barrel channel is huge and I don't have to worry about the barrel floating. When I was younger, 20 pounds wasn't a big deal. But now every pound saved is important. I am looking at Manners or HS as their replacement. I would go with HS Precision if I know the barrel clears the channel. My $.02.
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