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Hey guys I think I decided on a Remington 700 SPS in .30-06...
for the rifle itself It seems the going rate here (tacoma washington) is $410. Does that sound about right to you guys? I plan on slapping a harris bipod on there which i've seen from 40-80 dollars depending on which one i get and a leupold 3.5-9x on it...anythoughts suggestion comments questions??? LET ME KNOW i like hearing from you guys, you seem to know your stuff!! :D

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^yea.......what he said
 

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to be honest with you...it's one of those things i just don't know. I'm going with the .30-06 because it's what i am familiar with... I have no experience with the .308 and i have no doubt in my mind that it is a SUPERB round...i guess you could just say I am partial to the 06 I suppose.


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my new SC3 is in 260 Rem, I have NO experience with this rifle. But I've heard many good things and did some research.

I would suggest you do the same for your rifle.
 

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I'll put my 5R vs. ur 06 ANY day of the week.

*note- didn't say I would be the shooter. :p
 

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+1 on the 06. It has better ballistics than the .308 and handlels heavy bulletts bettwer. Many say the .308 is inherantly more accurate, but unless you are shooting a benchrest match it is academic anyway. Hornady makes light magnum ammo for it that gives 300 win mag performance. Good choice. BTW seem like a good price.
 

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I have not exp. w/ the 06, I am just a die hard .308 fan. I am sure it will be a nice rifle.

Drew- I'll wait till BC gets back, he'll be doing my shooting............ :D

Edit: don't wanna steal this thread anymore.....but Drew, Mel has to be off limits......thats like having an Ace up ur sleeve.....
 

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Nothing wrong with the '06 at all. More BANG in your stick! A very good round!! Good choice with the remmy rifle, later down the road you can have mele build you up a SC rifle on your action :wink:

I would like to have a '06 tactical rifle in the safe, but I don't...........Hey MELE.......



The tactical rifles you NEED in the safe are: 22LR suppressed (thanks be to Mele on this one), 223, 308, 30-06, 300WM, 50BMG. (You need a minimum of 2 of each) :wink: A can is optional, but recomended!
 

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Ah yes, I shall chime in....

308 vs 30-06. An argument for the ages. The 308 was actually designed to get the same performance out of a shorter case (and action). It did just that... for a time. There is no denying that the -06 has more case capacity, and given that advantage, it can shoot the same bullets as the .308 at faster velocities... thats just physics.

The .308 fits in a short action, that also is physics. They are both accurate rounds and both are great, and I love them both. Neither one being "better" than the other. I'm a real fan of both.

So there is my opinion... just buy both, and I'm happy to build rifles in -06! I loved building drews, it turned out very nice.

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a couple of you guys mentioned the 06 is faster...doees faster mean flatter shooting??

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The .30-06 vs. .308 debate:


For bullets that weigh 175 grains or less, I'd choose the .308

For heavy bullets--190 grains and up--I'd choose the .30-06.

The trajectory difference between the two rounds is insignificant.
The .30-06 is better suited when it comes to heavy bullets and handloading.

For a first rifle, you cannot go wrong with either, but you might be better off with a .308.


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(LETS SEE IF THIS WORKS RIGHT)

FROM REMINGTON

Bullet - Muzzle - 100 - 200 - 300 - 400 - 500
30-06 Springfield
Remington Express 125 PSP 3140 2780 2447 2138 1853 1595
Premier Scirocco Bonded 150 SSB 2910 2696 2492 2298 2111 1934
Premier AccuTip 150 AT BT 2910 2686 2473 2270 2077 1893
Premier Core-Lokt Ultra 150 UB PSP 2910 2631 2368 2121 1889 1674
Premier Core-Lokt Ultra 150 MC 2910 2617 2342
Premier AccuTip 165 AT BT 2800 2597 2403 2217 2039 1870
Remington Express 165 PSP CL 2800 2534 2283 2047 1825 1621
Premier Safari Grade 180 AF PSP 2700 2465 2243 2032 1833 1648
Premier Scirocco Bonded 180 SSB 2700 2522 2351 2186 2028 1878
Premier Core-Lokt Ultra 180 UB PSP 2700 2480 2270 2070 1882 1704

308 Win.

Premier Scirocco Bonded 150 SSB 2820 2611 2410 2219 2037 1863
Premier Core-Lokt Ultra 150 UB PSP 2820 2546 2288 2046 1819 1611
Remington Express 150 PSP CL 2820 2533 2263 2009 1774 1560
Remington Express 150 MC 2820 2533 2263
Premier Scirocco Bonded 165 SSB 2700 2513 2333 2161 1996 1839
Premier AccuTip 165 AT BT 2700 2501 2311 2129 1956 1792
Remington Express 168 BTHP Match 2680 2493 2314 2143 1979 1823
Premier Core-Lokt Ultra 180 UB PSP 2620 2404 2198 2002 1818 1644

260 Remington
Premier AccuTipC 120 AT BT 2890 2697 2512 2334 2163 2000
Remington ExpressC 140 PSP CL 2750 2544 2347 2158 1979 1812
Premier Core-Lokt UltraC 140 UB PSP 2750 2554 2365 2185 2013 1849



OR HERE http://www.remington.com/ammo/ballistics/centerfire/comp_ballistics_results.asp[/url]
 

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You left out the very best .30-06 loads. I like heavy bullets--190 grains and up.


And Sierra makes nice heavy bullets suitable for handloading in .30-06

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My reasoning for liking the .308 is I think is a great beginner long range round. That is why I got it, and I am still very much, a beginner. There are 1,000,000,000 possiblities w/ .308. Not just in loads, but in aftermarket stuff, knowledge etc. I found it to be VERY easy to load for and a fun cartridge. Shot one 30/06 once, it was ok, but had more kick than my .308 and I don't see any significant advatage it offers.........but that is my personal opinion. I say reasearch the hell out of it......and buy what you think is best!

Drew- I have decided it would be unfair to pick on a 'special' child who has problems putting on his clothes correctly.........


Edit cuz i can't spell......and Rec is giving me **** about it.
 
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