[Spoon]

I was just wandering what everyone’s opinion is on the most durable finish or coating. I just got a teflon coated barrel and its not that scratch resistant. Other rifles I have that are painted are actually more durable then the teflon coating. It just seems to chip off a little when brazed against rock or metal. Its nothing like what you see on pots and pans.

 

[mele]

Unfortunately, the teflon on rifles is not as durable as one might think. I use teflon finish on my rifles, and I really do wish it was more durable. Gun-Kote, if properly applied, is a "bit" better, but I'm not sure if its worth the extra effort. I like teflon better. The other good thing about teflon is that it bonds with the metal, so even if the finish wears off, it still provides lubrication and some protection.

I'm always looking at potential new finishes. Ceramic coating is a possibility.

MEL

 

[Dead Roman]

Unfortunately, the teflon on rifles is not as durable as one might think. I use teflon finish on my rifles, and I really do wish it was more durable. Gun-Kote, if properly applied, is a "bit" better, but I'm not sure if its worth the extra effort. I like teflon better. The other good thing about teflon is that it bonds with the metal, so even if the finish wears off, it still provides lubrication and some protection.

I'm always looking at potential new finishes. Ceramic coating is a possibility.

MEL

you should look into powdercoating. I am a professional powdercoater, and i have powdercoated shotgun and a few unting rifle barrells before. we have to heat the metal to 400 degrees(which in my ecperience isnt nearly enough to damage enev the thinnest of metals) and then the powder is applied and we coock the part for another 15 minutes. Give me a PM if your interested(way cheaper that ceramic and just as durable, a barrel would run you about 20 bux)

 

[Spoon]

wow I never considered using a powder coat. I have had experience with this before and it has got to be the most durable coating on anything I have ever seen. I think ill definately try that on my next gun project. It wont be any time soon but ill post a message up Dead Roman and maybe ill send a barrel your way. By the way, where is teague, I live in fort worth.

 

[mele]

I have a PM to Dead Roman about powder coating. I have a some questions about application thickness, and usability on internal parts like a bolt. I'm always interested in hearing about new and old things. It seems that more people would be using powder coating if it was a viable solution.

MEL

 

[Dead Roman]

Well, aside from rhino linings powder is about the most durable finish you can get as far as metal goes. I'd like to give a shot at painting a a bolt and other internal parts, ive never seen or heard of it being done, the only way to really see what kind of results we would get would be to try it on someones piece of junk bolt action and see what happened(i have some theories but i could be wrong) .the bolt might actuall be doable, thoug the face would have to be masked off.

spoon.

Teague is about an 30 min outside of waco just past mexia on hwy 84(if that helps)

 

[12twist]

Teague is about an 30 min outside of waco just past mexia on hwy 84(if that helps)

I know exactly where that is.....with so many Texans so close (well, relatively), Im amazed we all havent gotten together at the range yet!

 

[Dead Roman]

Teague is about an 30 min outside of waco just past mexia on hwy 84(if that helps)

I know exactly where that is.....with so many Texans so close (well, relatively), Im amazed we all havent gotten together at the range yet!

soon as my SC gets finished imma try and hook up with topo and Jeffvn for one of thier houston outings.

 

[mele]

Dead Roman,

You mentioned in our PM that powder coat could be applied as thin as 2 mils, which is .0002 (two thousandths). Now, that is half as thick as gun-kote and teflon, which I use on internals including the bolt faces.

I'm willing to try this out, I have an old M1917 that perhaps I could try this on. I shall inform everyone if we try this....

MEL

 

[12twist]

soon as my SC gets finished imma try and hook up with topo and Jeffvn for one of thier houston outings.

I'd be up for the same as soon as my Leupold gets here for my 700P

 

[JRP3]

Mel,

I think you put an extra zero in there, I beleive you meant 0.002

John

 

[Dead Roman]

Dead Roman,

You mentioned in our PM that powder coat could be applied as thin as 2 mils, which is .0002 (two thousandths). Now, that is half as thick as gun-kote and teflon, which I use on internals including the bolt faces.

I'm willing to try this out, I have an old M1917 that perhaps I could try this on. I shall inform everyone if we try this....

MEL

im a math idiot please address me as such (and i mean DUMB)

im refferring to millimeters

 

[Dead Roman]

forgive me if i sound dumb, but i went back and double checked measurments, and yess mele i meant mils as in thousandths. We rarely use technical terms where i work. People either want it "thick" or "thin".

 

[murray]

What about http://www.molyresin.com/. I have read lots of great reviews using this stuff.

 

[spade]

What about http://www.molyresin.com/. I have read lots of great reviews using this stuff.

so have i actually. You might try and figure out what wilson combat uses. I really like their stuff and its supposed to be so thin that you can coat every single part of the rifle and maintain specs.

 

[mele]

I think you put an extra zero in there, I beleive you meant 0.002

Errr... yeah, you are correct. 2 thousandths. 1 mil is a thousandth for those of you that are wondering. If we can get powder coating at 2 mils, then we should be fine. I'll look into this molyresin also

MEL

 

[Dead Roman]

2 mils=not a problem

 

[murray]

Hey Mele
Here is a post from ar15.com that you can see some stuff done in Moly Resin
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b ... 8&t=215836
Stickman from those forums is always posting customers stuff he has completed and there is a article somewhere on those forums of step by step directions.