This is far from true.They didn't. The "issues" they have do not affect anything accuracy wise. Their "issues" are more user preference related than anything.
Why does it have to be accuracy wise?They didn't. The "issues" they have do not affect anything accuracy wise. Their "issues" are more user preference related than anything.
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May be, but why am I able to hold a little over 2'' at 1,000 yards with a 30.06. I ran SMK 175 grain pill and at 71 I'm way past my prime. Just Rem 700 LR rifle. I did put a Timney trigger in it.This is far from true.
One of the biggest issues that Remington factory rifles have is a super deep throat. This is a well known and documented issue that I have personally dealt with several times...and it does effect accuracy. Many have skirted around this issue by milling out the bottom of the receiver, buying longer alpha mags, single loading rounds...but in my case these solutions still didn't allow me to get anywhere near the lands.
The only acceptable solution is to limit ones self to bullets that will jump insane distances without drastically effecting accuracy.
Yes...it is an issue...and yes...it does effect accuracy.
2"? Consistently? You better start entering competitions with that Remington because you will win every one of them if you can hold 2" groups at 1000.May be, but why am I able to hold a little over 2'' at 1,000 yards with a 30.06. I ran SMK 175 grain pill and at 71 I'm way past my prime. Just Rem 700 LR rifle. I did put a Timney trigger in it.
First thing, I did not lie. At my age I don't do competitions of any type of shooting. I just play.Tell me again why you changed out the trigger? But I didn't tell the first time! Every weapon I own has had the trigger up graded. Rifle, pistols and shotgun. I sure hope that don't upset you.2"? Consistently? You better start entering competitions with that Remington because you will win every one of them if you can hold 2" groups at 1000.
175 smk's tend to do ok with a jump. However if you go with one of the more ballistically superior bullets chances are it will not shoot to its potential due to the deep throat.
If you have a Remington and love it...then more power to you. It is just not realistic to feed new guys the lie that many or most of them don't have this and other issues.
Tell me again why you changed out the trigger?
I am not upset...just trying to leave a dose of reality for the new guys here. I also did not call you a liar. I believe you shot a 2" group with that rifle. However one group does not consistency make.First thing, I did not lie. At my age I don't do competitions of any type of shooting. I just play.Tell me again why you changed out the trigger? But I didn't tell the first time! Every weapon I own has had the trigger up graded. Rifle, pistols and shotgun. I sure hope that don't upset you.![]()
Hold a little over 2" at 1000yds huh? Well, that pretty much makes you the most talented shooter on the planet.May be, but why am I able to hold a little over 2'' at 1,000 yards with a 30.06.
When I say I held X if it's 2, 3, or 5 rounds that's what I held. As for me the weapon can do great, but can the shooter. In this picture the two rounds on the left are mind. But the nice group is a close friend's Savage in 308, at 1,000yards. Now he has a custom barrel and was shooting 175's, but not SMK's. For another old man he did all right. View attachment 19281 Let see he is 69 and I'm heading to 72 in a few months. All I say if old me can play around, what can a young man working at it do.So, not "hold" 2" then? One single group rather?
That's believable. I've had 3 bullets land on top of each other, literally, at 1000yds before. Shoot enough, and it happens.
Though we must have different interpretations of the english language a bit. When I say I can "hold" x sized group, that means that's what I can almost always achieve. ... but then if you're saying it's luck, how does your statement apply to what ddd007 is saying? Wouldn't he be correct in his interpretation of remington's capabilities? (it certainly sounds like he's correct to me)
I understand what you mean when you say "hold" now. Thank you.When I say I held X if it's 2, 3, or 5 rounds that's what I held. As for me the weapon can do great, but can the shooter. In this picture the two rounds on the left are mind. But the nice group is a close friend's Savage in 308, at 1,000yards. Now he has a custom barrel and was shooting 175's, but not SMK's. For another old man he did all right. View attachment 19281 Let see he is 69 and I'm heading to 72 in a few months. All I say if old me can play around, what can a young man working at it do.
Would that be two or three rounds or 10 rounds?I understand what you mean when you say "hold" now. Thank you.
I'd like to clarify the argument you're trying to make however... because I may be misinterpreting it.
Are you saying that you believe a guy should expect sub-1/4moa performance at 1000yds with a stock remington 700? If thats not right, then please clarify what you're saying.
You tell me. I'm trying to define what you're saying. Trying to figure out exactly what kind of performance you're suggesting people should expect out of a new factory rem700.Would that be two or three rounds or 10 rounds?
lol...I understand what you mean when you say "hold" now.
Don't lump me in with satcong. I think "hold" means what most everyone else thinks "hold" means. Being consistently capable, majority of the time = hold. If I'm understanding correctly, satcong thinks "hold" means 2-5 shots. Any, 2-5 shots.Well what ya'll call "hold", and what I call "hold" are TRULY diametrically opposed!