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Just want to know what ya'll like when it comes to BIG bore cartridges.

Like the 444, 450 marlin, 45/70.............or the .458 win mag! You name it.
 

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Hey Caver, awesome thread.

I just ordered a Marlin 1895 in 45/70, so although its not here yet thats my first big bore. I like the ballistics of the round for what I plan to use it for. Accurate, too. Those big beasty single shots used to shoot in 1000Y competitions a hundred years ago and all.

Longest killing shot I've ever heard of with the 45/70 is 1,500 and something yards, at Adobe walls, by Billy Dixon. The army tested them at 2 1/2 miles shooting at huge pine boards, and it was taking the bullets 21 seconds to get there lol but they were getting there.

a 300 grain partition even at the lazy factory loaded 1880 fps must really ruin somethings day. With careful handloads I think its at the bottom of the .458 win mag spectrum, a 405 grain solid at 2,100 fps...But those loads are only for Ruger single shots I think.

Pretty versatile bullet anyway. Feels better than relying on 30-30, in a small package.
 

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Heh... yeah if we are not talking .338 Lapua, then I like the .45-70. Of course, there are some others like .50-110 that is more difficult to get ammo for, but still cool. Of course, the .50 BMG is a nice big bore. I also like the .375 H&H

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.338 Lapua mag, .408 CheyTac, .50 BMG :)

there big bore,capable of extremely long range shootin and tactical rifles chambered in them that would allow you to shoot them at these long distances

for brush hunting? a .45/70 govt would be nice
.458 Win for taking the African Elephant
 

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700 nitro all the way....lol
 

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Big but slow, the 50 Whisper (or whatever its called these days). I'm never going to hunt anyway.

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most bullets are round nosed .700 inch projectiles.... somewhere around 800-1100 grains...

theres a guy at our gun club that has one... it fucking hurts to shoot.

feels like someone took a big swing at your sholder with a 10 pound sledge hammer.
 

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Ouch!

I've heard of old hunters back in the day saying their shoulders were permanently injured from shooting 8 and 4 bore rifles. Guess I should buy my african game rifle now while my shoulder is still young haha...but no 700 nitro for me
 

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theres actually something in the 500 range... like a 574 t-rex i think?

theres video's online of guys being thrown back 5-10 feet by it...
 

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I'm sure firing that thing is better than having an elephant do a tap dance shuffle on you...How much better, I don't know lol
 

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How about an old African favorite and Mauser classic--the 9.3x62mm.

Now there is a classy big bore for you.

( In case you don't know about this round, it uses a 286 grain, .366" diameter bullet loaded to 2400 fps. The Germans developed this round from the .30-06 case. And the really funny thing is that the .30-06 was developed from the 7x57mm. All I can say is that it is a good thing that the US did not just adopt the 7x57mm back in the early 1900s. A lot of really great rounds would not exist today. No .30-06, no .270, no .280, no 7x64mm, no .25-06, no .338-06.)

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I was looking at the H&R Handi rifles (singleshot) in a 45/70. Just needed a heavy brush gun and for the price it looks like a fair rifle. anyone know anything about them. Muzzleblast, the Marlin 1895 or guide gun is on the top of my list, just too much money for what I will use it for, congrats on your new rifle!

Will the 458 win mag work on a m700 long action?
 

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H&H have made a couple of new rounds reently, the .400 H&H and the .465 H&H...... if .375 just doesn't cut it for you.

Of course, a .303 is all you actually need.
 

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.303 British has proved itself to be perfectly capable of dealing with both elephant and rhino, when in the hands of the experienced hunter.

The big bore rounds are just a gimmick for people who can't aim.
 

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Yimmy said:
.303 British has proved itself to be perfectly capable of dealing with both elephant and rhino, when in the hands of the experienced hunter.

The big bore rounds are just a gimmick for people who can't aim.
well legally you need a .375 H&H as a minimum now i think

.375 H&H overkill? normally id agree but there isnt such a thing when an angry 2 1/2 ton Rhino with a 4 foot long horn he intends to shove up your ass is charging you at 35 mph
if you have a bad shot with a .303 British your dead, if you have a bad shot with a .375 H&H you might slow it down or stop it dead still
.375 H&H is more forgiving
 

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I disagree, if you have a bad shot with a .375, you may get one more round off.
If you have a bad shot with a .303, it is more forgiving, in that you can get 3-4 more rounds off.

However I do admit that the .303 round should be used for behind the ear shots into the brain, and that trying to punch a hole through the front skull of a rhino may be pushing your luck.

So I say take a .303 Enfield and a .400H&H double rifle. :D
 

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I think the idea about what calibre to use on a rhino is a tad stupid - as I do believe it's illegal to hunt them. OTHER than the 12 black rhinos Namibia and South Africa are allowed to shoot/sell...

And the tiny bastards only weigh in at max 1300-1400kg...that's nothing.
 

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We can dream can't we??? :D

My smith was (about a year ago) building a 50bmg for a fella to take out west elk hunting (is that legal?). All he had in was the action, the fish gill break and a mcmillan stock at the time I was there (custom barrel was on the way)...................only if I had the money, a custom 50.
 
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