[cfroehlich7584]

Anyone know when the sunset clause comes into effect for the Brady Bill? And do you guys know which law bans hi-cap mags in rifles (might be the Brady Bill but not sure). If its not the Brady bill does it have a sunset clause and when would that occur?

 

[mele]

I do not believe the brady bill has a sunset clause, the only clause was the instant back ground check (NICS) that got rid of the 5 day waiting period on the national level (many states have their own waiting periods) and that clause has been met. The 10 round mag limit was I believe the assualt weapons ban, which I believe has a sunset clause that goes into effect the end of this year or sometime next year (provided its not renewed by congress).

MEL

 

[Jeff_850]

if not renewed by congress it will expire on September 13th
im not sure if you can buy it on the 13th or have to wait till the 14th
and impritty sure thats the assault weapons ban
it covers 'high capacity' mags, regulates semi-auto weapons with the following:
flash hiders, pistol grips, detachable mags, beyonet mounts, tele stocks and bans manufacutre of magazines with more than 10 rounds

 

[Scatch Maroo]

if not renewed by congress it will expire on September 13th
im not sure if you can buy it on the 13th or have to wait till the 14th
and impritty sure thats the assault weapons ban
it covers 'high capacity' mags, regulates semi-auto weapons with the following:
flash hiders, pistol grips, detachable mags, beyonet mounts, tele stocks and bans manufacutre of magazines with more than 10 rounds

You're right--I was rather excited to hear about this, especially after Feinstein and Boxer were crying over the House refusing to let it get to a floor vote, but my ecstacy was stipend by my discovery that California has its own separate ban on assault rifles, which means even after September 13th, Californians are still denied.

Scatch Maroo

 

[mele]

Yes, California is not a good place to live if you are a firearms enthusiest. They have many more gun laws that are much more stringent than the federal laws.

15 day waiting periods, assualt weapons bans, etc.

MEL

 

[Jeff_850]

funny what makes an 'assault weapon'
i can see why tehy would want to put more restrictions on class III
but flash hiders??? really little difference between them and a muzzle brake... just a differnt name
detachable box magazines? big deal
'high caps'- so 11 rounds is high capacity??? i think id rather have a 15 rd mag than a 10 rd mag in my carry gun woudlnt you??? since most 'military' weapon types mags were produced in mass before the ban you have millions of AR-15 mags, FAL mags, M-14 mags banning the production of new ones donet help only mkaes them cost more and not always since there are so many of them
beyonet mounts? id rather they have it if they are coming after me... it makes them more probable to try to use thier rifle on me hand to hand which increaces my chances of survival, beyonets were never a practical weapon
collapsable stocks- allows me 6'4 to use the same gun as someone 5'4.. hardly an evil feature
pistol grips? they allow you to shoot from the hip according to the law's explanation... shooting from the hip will be more accuratre than shooting from the shoudler??? shooting from the hip will hit more? besides you cant hold a gun from the hip w/ a standard trigger shoudl you want to???
shooting from the hip is completely pointless
do snipers shoot from the hip? a lot of thier rilfes have pistol grips, they are an alternative and for a lot of people better way of holding a rifle

here in Ct we have a 14 day waiting period and some semi-auto pistol caliber carbines are made illegal cause the laws... atleast there is no regulation on AR-15 types that im aware of yet

 

[Scatch Maroo]

15 day waiting periods, assualt weapons bans, etc.

Do you know what the fifteen day period is for? I only have two pistols (Glock 30 and Taurus JP22), but when I bought the Taurus a few weeks ago the waiting period was still only ten days similar to the Glock--although in this state, I wouldn't be surprised if other weapons have a higher cooling off period.

Scatch Maroo

 

[Jeff_850]

here its a background check and it takes them 14 days to do it... who are they kidding every gunowner is in their computers after thier first long gun purchase or upon getting a pistol permit
here atleast when you get a pistol permit you can get guns the day you walk into the store to buy em and an instant background check to confirm

 

[mele]

Scatch,

It used to be 15 days for pistols, sounds like its only 10 now, which would be a surprise to me! I grew up in California... then got smart :shock:

Actually my family is still there so we visit often.

MEL

 

[subThermal]

You can wait about 10 minutes to get one in Texas.

Kinda nice to be able to walk into a store, point to a gun, and 15 minutes later drive home with it.

 

[mele]

sub,

Yep, same here in Montana. (much better then California). CA is good for many things, but gun ownership is not one of them unfortunately.

MEL

 

[westpointranger]

CA is good for many things

Like smog? :lol:

 

[Max338]

AHEM
LA is pretty clean now thank u very much (after Rearden) lol
only problem is illegals

 

[Scatch Maroo]

CA is good for many things

Like smog? :lol:

To defend California's air... well, that's a rather hard thing to do, but there are a number of areas you can live to escape the smog... any place within 30 miles of the Pacific (Bay Area, San Diego county) escape a good deal of it because the coastal winds sweep them away. Sacramento, L.A., and the more populated areas within the central valley (Fresno/Bakersfield) suffer a lot of the smog because of the valleys they're developed in.

Mele's got a point, and I think for the majority of firearm enthusiasts, CA's restrictions prove to be the deal breaker and cause most of them to leave the state.

Scatch Maroo

 

[Kiwi]

Heh Max338,

I was an "illegal" in Ventura in 84 - 85.....I was painting houses by hand for cash and had two out-of -work locals working with me.

Got some good surf and was treated very well by all the people I met in the 14 months I was there.

New Zealand's population at the time was 3 1/2 million......the estimated number of illegal aliens in the USA then was 12 million....4 times our whole population!!!!
:shock:

 

[Max338]

at the rate california is growing.... thell be no more room!

 

[Kiwi]

Tell me about it!! ..... we now have you guys coming to live over here!!

At least our firearms law still allows "assult weapons" albeit under a strict licence.....I shoot L1A1's

There is no CCL here though....but still better than CA

8)
I had real sympathy for native Californians, as even when I was there in '85 the volume of foreigners (like myself) was evident as being of concern to the locals, yet all the people I knew were very gracious.

 

[westpointranger]

:roll: Ok, sorry I brought it up.

I know stuff like folding/colapsing stocks, bayonet lugs, and flash hiders will be legal again; will anything else be legal? What about importation of assault weapons? Does that have a sunset clause? What about barrels shorter than 16"?

 

[Jeff_850]

it was 18" barrel at one point, changed to 16" so the government could sell thier surplus M1 Carbines after WWII
dont know when the 18" barrel law was put into place, also 18" barrel for shotguns (still is)

i wish they would modify it to 14.5" or rid that law but i doubt when they replace the M4 Carbine they will sell it to us
politics have changed a bit 'military style' weapons even converted to semi-auto only are politcially incorrect and are currently 'banning' certain features and after the ban expires no one will want us to have them they just wont stop us (till similar leglislation is going to make its way to the senate)

 

[westpointranger]

A friend of mine told me that some of the high taxes on guns would end also, which would make guns much cheaper. Anybody know anything about that?