[sniperdog-alpha1]

Ok I have 2 cz rifles in my extensive gun collection. One is a heavy barrel 223 and the other is a 458 lott. They both have amazing set triggers and the non set is good too. The accuracy is great also, I do not have the numbers with me for the 223, I think it is.25 to .50 . The 458 just makes one big whole so there is a problem getting numbers for that. What do you think of the cz's

 

[AK]

I like CZ handguns, a lot. In particular, the CZ-75BD.

Their rifles, I cannot comment on, but Mel wrote a review on one. He also reviewed the one I'd love to get my hands on, which can be found here.

Apparently they're both good rifles. With luck, I'll fire the -527 sometime in the next two weeks, snow permitting.

 

[sniperdog-alpha1]

I just got that 527 in at work today. Along with a few others

 

[spade]

ive got a CZ 452 american and have used a CZ 527(i think) in 22-250.

The triggers on both flat suck. I hate CZ triggers. CZ has always made **** trigger and they probably always will.

On a lighter note, their probably the most accurate (factory) rifles in existance. i love em.

just wish theyd fix the damn triggers.

 

[mele]

Yeah, I'm not overly impressed with the triggers either. The set trigger is too light for tactical work and I do not like it so far forward. When in normal mode, its notchy with excessive takeup. (A true two stage would be better). I thought I would get better accuracy with the set trigger, but I do not...

But beyond that, they are pretty nice. Fit and finish are not high quality, but good enough. Accuracy is good though, and I do like the HS Precision stocks, but you pay the premium for them.

MEL

 

[sniperdog-alpha1]

I have gotten use the cz triggers, and shoot rather well with them. I do not like it as well as my winchester laredo in 300 win. the accuracy is superb

 

[spade]

well, the good thing about them is that they are easily tuned. I have the trigger on my 452 down to around 2.5lbs with just a small amount of creep.
This was done using a brookies trigger kit. Im sure if i hit it with some rubbing compound the creep would be gone.

 

[Dooty]

Bought myself a CZ452 Silhouette as an early christmas present and can say that I'm very impressed with it, do'nt think the rabbits are though!
Mine is supplied with an adjustable trigger and backed off the screw and it has a nice 1.8 lbs trigger pull. I know that in the US you have a lot of legal trouble with trigger pulls, do your CZ's not have the adjustable triggers?

 

[spade]

yes they do, but even when you adjust them they still have creep out the ass. If you dont know what creep is then i really cant explain it to you. Its got to be felt to really understand.

 

[Dooty]

Thanks spade, know what you mean about creep but my trigger does break cleanly. Must be luckly and have got a decent one!

 

[spade]

yeah, im glad you got lucky... everyone of the target shooters i know. We all hate our CZ triggers...lol

 

[AK]

Just for clarification:

Trigger Creep is where you pull the trigger, but you have to keep hauling back beyond the "normal break" point for the trigger to "Break" and then the round to fire? Usually makes the trigger feel like it's got an immense pull-strength on it?

 

[Dooty]

Hi AK, checked mine with a digital force meter (push-me-pull-me) gauge from work, nice clean pull with a break of 1.8 lbs

 

[spade]

i thought u were millitary AK? you should know what creep is.

As i said, creep is hard to explain and easier to feel. Best as i can explain it, its a big freakin dead spot in the trigger... its not take up, its not overtravel, its just... right in the middle there... and its dead.

 

[sniperdog-alpha1]

Here is one fro ya, creep no creep does make a damn difference. We all like something different, 2 stage or 1 stage triggers and so on. I have more than a few sniper rifles, and some have 2 stage and others don't. Some have creep and some don't. LEARN TO SHOOT WHATEVER COMES YOUR WAY! Creep or know creep, show people that a little creep isn't gonna kill ya, and that you will out shoot them with whatever trigger you got. We all know that cz's are accurate and have good barrels. Try and fix the travel as much as possible and after that get use to the trigger and shoot

 

[spade]

lol i accept nothing but perfection!!! :twisted:

 

[triggerhappy]

lets see if I can get this right.

I was pretty sure I knew what you guys were talking about when you mentioned "creep" but since this thread has taken that turn I might as well be sure.

Its not the initial takeup or slack in the beginning, but its the "mushy" extra space near the end where you can't feel anything. Extra space may be a bad way to put it.

Here's what I am sure of, my old 10/22 is completely stock and takes the cake when it comes to crappy/crummy/creepy/sucky/horrible/bad triggers. Followed very closely by my 870 which wouldn't suprise me if its set for 8 pounds!

 

[spade]

its a bit of mush right before the trigger breaks....a trigger should break like a glass rod. just all of a sudden, a pop. no takeup or overtravel.

but this is just me guys. I have a really picky trigger finger. Everyone likes something different in their trigger.

 

[muzzleblast]

Creep makes a difference on my rifles. I like them to be just how I like them...As Spade says, yeah, picky but I did shell out the bucks for em. If they're adjustable, I have em adjusted

 

[sniperdog-alpha1]

My wnichester lareo has 1.25lb trigger, no creep, and nearly zero travel. if a trigger isn't crisp than there is creep, unless it is two stage. creep is the distance trveled before it breaks more or less. A two stage goes light to heavy. not real heavy, but enough to know that the trigger is at the fireing point.