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I bought Federal 215 Large Magnum Rifle Primers by mistake. They were in stock and the box was the same color as the 210M Large Rifle Primers. So am I’m stuck with 1000 primers? Or, can I use the Fed 215 Magnums in a 308 round using Hodgdon CFE223 powder?
 

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I bought Federal 215 Large Magnum Rifle Primers by mistake. They were in stock and the box was the same color as the 210M Large Rifle Primers. So am I’m stuck with 1000 primers? Or, can I use the Fed 215 Magnums in a 308 round using Hodgdon CFE223 powder?
You can use them, may have to retune your load for a magnum primer

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Would I lower the charge or increase them?


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No it.wont be a problem at all just be sure to lower your charge to compensate. I couldn't tell you how much, I myself would probably drop by a grain to start

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No it.wont be a problem at all just be sure to lower your charge to compensate. I couldn't tell you how much, I myself would probably drop by a grain to start

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Is the case length more important or less important than loading for a bolt gun? I’m using a Kel-Tec RFB. Just got it. Not too impressed yet. Needs to be cleaned and oiled very well I feel.
 

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Is the case length more important or less important than loading for a bolt gun? I’m using a Kel-Tec RFB. Just got it. Not too impressed yet. Needs to be cleaned and oiled very well I feel.
More important is consistent case length. You definitely don't want less than minimum or greater than maximum. I always trim mine .005 over minimum. To long of neck can in essence pinch the neck hard enough that bullet cant release. Typically your tolerance range is minimum + 15-20 thou. Like a 308 recommended minimun is 2.005 and max +20 thou I believe.. maybe 15 but anyway I trim all to 2.010. Whatever length you pick thats what you develope you load around

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More important is consistent case length. You definitely don't want less than minimum or greater than maximum. I always trim mine .005 over minimum. To long of neck can in essence pinch the neck hard enough that bullet cant release. Typically your tolerance range is minimum + 15-20 thou. Like a 308 recommended minimun is 2.005 and max +20 thou I believe.. maybe 15 but anyway I trim all to 2.010. Whatever length you pick thats what you develope you load around

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At a certain point do the necks get too short where I need to toss the brass?


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At a certain point do the necks get too short where I need to toss the brass?


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If you trim them to short you won't be able to get the neck tension you need and if way to short they won't even keep the projectile straight and can become dangerous but if you are just a few thousands short, they will grow as you reload them

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At a certain point do the necks get too short where I need to toss the brass?


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In my opinion, others will agree and disagree, you need to have at least 2 reputable loading manuals (lee, lyman, hornady speer) i have 4 and there are also reliable online sources like hogdon. Any load manual will have minimum and maximum specs for load and trim lengths

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Get too short by how? By you trimming it?
Yes.. if you read what I said, it says, "if you trim them to short" .. that being said, ive never trimmed one short enough that it was unusable.. ive had the occasion when setting my LE Wilson lathe type trimmer setup where ive trimmed a couple thou on the first case ... that was until I figured out how to ensure getting it reset to its previous trim length.. kinda figured out a no guessing way to go about it

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Ive just logged that reading for each caliper i trim and it puts me on the money.. i don't ever move the adjustment knobs position on the shaft so its always the same..


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Yes.. if you read what I said, it says, "if you trim them to short" .. that being said, ive never trimmed one short enough that it was unusable.. ive had the occasion when setting my LE Wilson lathe type trimmer setup where ive trimmed a couple thou on the first case ... that was until I figured out how to ensure getting it reset to its previous trim length.. kinda figured out a no guessing way to go about it

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You're fine. Your accuracy may or may not suffer, but it won't cause the safety issue. It's the cases too long that may cause problems.

It will grow back once you shoot them.
 

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You're fine. Your accuracy may or may not suffer, but it won't cause the safety issue. It's the cases too long that may cause problems.

It will grow back once you shoot them.
Believe it or not, a friend of mine trimmed his cases to within a 1/8 or 1/16th of a inch from the shoulder.. that is what im referring to as unusable and even unsafe

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Believe it or not, a friend of mine trimmed his cases to within a 1/8 or 1/16th of a inch from the shoulder.. that is what im referring to as unusable and even unsafe

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I guess not the actual shoulder but where the neck and shoulder meet.

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1/8 off??? That's not trimming. That's actually cutting it to beyond unrecoverable. I wonder how that happened.
 

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1/8 off??? That's not trimming. That's actually cutting it to beyond unrecoverable. I wonder how that happened.
I know. He did a handful that way. Thats what I was referring to when telling the other gentleman "as long as you don't get to long or to short.

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I know. He did a handful that way. Thats what I was referring to when telling the other gentleman "as long as you don't get to long or to short.

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Ted, I wasn’t kidding when I said my luck with guns sucks. That brand new Kel-Tec RFB is on its way back to the manufacturer. It keeps double feeding no matter what I do with the gas, and a piece that holds the charging handle in place by the rails broke off. Now I’m just waiting for them to say “oh, there was some reloaded cartridges used. No warranty”


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