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I have an earlier version of the Hornady manual, but the only new thing I'm trying lately are the 178 grain ELD Match bullets I just bought. I'm going to work up an OCW load for my gun using Norma Brass, Federal 210 primers, these bullets, and either Varget or 4064.

Would anyone with a later manual mind posting the data for those two powders and this load? C.O.L., too?

Thanks very much. I'll play with the bullets and get the chrono on them and post results of the workup. Preesh!

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So I have been shooting the ELD M 178 for .308 using 42grains if IMR 4064 with with a COAL of 2.84 "fits AI mags" with winchester primers. Getting one ragged hole at 100yards.
 

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So I have been shooting the ELD M 178 for .308 using 42grains if IMR 4064 with with a COAL of 2.84 "fits AI mags" with winchester primers. Getting one ragged hole at 100yards.
Thank you! You’ve been all kinds of helpful today! Preesh!

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Help with Hornady an SMK seating bullets for .308 an 300WM

I have a question about the brass and bullets, I use FC & Horandy brass for my Remington 700 - 308 and 300 WM.

Question is, I resize an trim the brass IAW the technical data for 308 which is trimmed to 2.005" an 300WM is trimmed to 2.610".

Using Hornady bullets 220gr & 178gr ELD-X and SMK 190gr & 200gr for my 300WM and SMK 190gr & 168gr for my 308. I was under the impression that once you seat your first bullet the rest of them should be the same. I noticed when seating the first bullet for both my 300 and 308 I have to constantly readjust my seating die because they never come out the same there's always a couple of thousands more or less than the original seating of the bullet to the specified seating depth. Is this normal because I've been told that once you seat your first bullet the rest of them are supposed to be the same. Is this normal? Is it the bullet because the bullet ogive is not the same for each bullet even though the manufacturer claims they should be?
 

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I have a question about the brass and bullets, I use FC & Horandy brass for my Remington 700 - 308 and 300 WM.

Question is, I resize an trim the brass IAW the technical data for 308 which is trimmed to 2.005" an 300WM is trimmed to 2.610".

Using Hornady bullets 220gr & 178gr ELD-X and SMK 190gr & 200gr for my 300WM and SMK 190gr & 168gr for my 308. I was under the impression that once you seat your first bullet the rest of them should be the same. I noticed when seating the first bullet for both my 300 and 308 I have to constantly readjust my seating die because they never come out the same there's always a couple of thousands more or less than the original seating of the bullet to the specified seating depth. Is this normal because I've been told that once you seat your first bullet the rest of them are supposed to be the same. Is this normal? Is it the bullet because the bullet ogive is not the same for each bullet even though the manufacturer claims they should be?
Are you measuring from the base to the ogive or to the tip? You are talking about same brand bullets when you were seating and measuring, right?

The same occurrence really bothered me when I first started reload.
 

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I go from the head of the case to the ogive of the bullet. And when I'm seating the bullets I always have to make fine adjustments either two or three thousand up or two or three thousand down but when I do seat my first bullet to the correct seating depth the rest of them don't follow as I thought they would, I always have to make those fine adjustments check & recheck each of the bullets that I make. And like I said I'm using the Hornady Chamber Bullet Comparator Gauge. That's the gauge I use to check the length of my bullet.
 

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So I have been shooting the ELD M 178 for .308 using 42grains if IMR 4064 with with a COAL of 2.84 "fits AI mags" with winchester primers. Getting one ragged hole at 100yards.
I have a question. I acquired some old loading data from a Hornady manual that says for the 178 BTMP Match and 178 A-Max the max load is 41.3 gr of IMR 4064. I see you are shooting 42 gr of IMG 4064. Have you seen a pressure signs like flatten primers, can't open the bolt, cartridge seem to be stuck in the chamber. I am shooting a Rem 700-R5 and a Remington TAC -21 in 308. Will these rifle take max load and beyond and still be safe. My other concern is will the pressure be higher using 41.3 gr of IMR-4064 due to the fact the 178 ELDX has more surface area touch the lands. So much to consider be fore I go dumping powder and pulling the trigger. Please advise and share your concerns.
 
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