PLEASE READ MY POSTS IN THEIR ENTIRITY AS TO ENSURE YOU DO NOT EMBARASS YOURSELF LATER.
1) Killing animals is morally wrong? So is killing people... things die,**** happens. This is a sniper website. As much as we would like to skirt that fact, snipers kill people sometimes.
2) Descartes was an idiot.
3) If your not a hunter why are you responding? You obviously have no frame of refrence.
4) Im not the kind of guy who likes to debate, nor am I good at it. So, that being said, we'll just leave it at that. You can feel free to help yourself to steaming, mountain grown cup of shut the **** up.
You totally and outrageously misread my post, if you bothered to read (as opposed to skim) it at all.
My first remark re: animals and Jesus was obviously a joke: why would I say Jesus would become offended by the death of an animal, but NOT a human?
Second, I specifically stated I have NO problem with the death, regardless of means, of an animal, so why are you lecturing me on the occurences of death?
Third, me not being a hunter is the reason why I'm asking why you give animals any degree of moral respect,
Fourth, why the hostility? I haven't questioned the morality of hunting at all, but rather, merely asked why hunters refrain from using certain methods of take.
Muzzleblast, I appreciate the attention you've devoted to my question, but I fear your argument for hunting goes wasted as I did not find one necessary to begin with: I see nothing wrong with hunting, irregardless of why you choose to do it.
Since I won't stop eating meat, I'll continue to hunt, even though I technically don't need to. But, animals are dying on my behalf one way or another. Picking the tool for the job, the cleanest shot I can, and tracking like a mofo just help me to not let deer or any other animal die alone and scared in the woods with a bullet in it. Its a risk one takes when shooting an animal, but one we can all take steps to minimize.
My question was why do you bother to have concern for the animal's emotional state--why should anyone care how an animal feels prior to its death?
SubThermal answers this question, to his extent possible: he sees all hunting as immoral. However, I am interested to know why those who see hunting as moral still find it immoral to go about certain methods.
animals have rights or no rights doesnt matter bottom line is if you can avoid suffering do so... clean kill means better meat and you will need 1 shot so its more efficient..
This is a utilitarian reason, which I understand completely, but the question is:
be more humain twards the animal and why not do that when its helping you?
Why should I be humane to something I do not intend to eat? If I'm varminting, I'm killing animals purely for the pleasure of hitting a moving target--so although it is giving me entertainment, I do not plan to eat it, so why should I be efficient with my kills if it will limit my enjoyment?
I do not mean to sound like a broken record, but no one has really answered my question, and some have somehow read something completely different. I am NOT anti-hunting. I am simply curious as to why some people think it is objectively wrong to not grant deer and coyotes a degree of moral respect. Please, please, please read what I write before you make outrageous comments like telling me to sip on cups of bull ****.
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P.S. I'm a strong believer that Jesus loves everyone, regardless of how horrible a person we might think they are, and as weird as Descartes may have been, to call one of history's most brilliant minds (this is an objective fact) an 'idiot' is a sign of ignorance of the man's greatest accomplishments.