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I ran accross this on a motorcycle forum


1963 Communist Goals


1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war
2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war
3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"
4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites
6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination
7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.
8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN
9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress
10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN
11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)
12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party
13) Do away with loyalty oaths
14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office
15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US
16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.
18) Gain control of all student newspapers
19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.
23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".
24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".
27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"
28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".
31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI
36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business
38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.
43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
 

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Hell, yes - it was UGLY. But now we dropped Americans as our Big Bad Stars-And-Stripes Enemy, because we discovered that our own goverment was and is doing effectively all ugly things they told us US did, and much, much more:(( I was born in 1979, and my folks told me lots about 1960s, damn, it seems that only good thing made was DOSAAF and widespread shooting sport schools! I avoid watching TV - having so many lies and faked optimizm being poured into my ears make my trigger finger THAT itchy :(
 

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Caban,

It is a shame Russia has never really had the chance to use it's full potential of natural recourses. It is also intresting to note when Russia became a captilist country they adopted they type of capitolism that the communists said the US was like, with mafia running everything. At least that is what I have heard, I could be wrong. I don't mean any ill will against Russia, I say this as an intresting note. Yes the US has criminal gangs, crime etc like the communists claim, but it was greatly over stated and they do not run everything. I hope things get better for your country, you really deserve better than you have had historically. It's not like the average person was better off under the czar, there was a reason the revalution happened in 1917.
 

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eka, no offence taken. This list is nothing compared to real things in USSR in 1960s! My folks told me about those times. Totalitarizm is mild word for what was happening, believe me.
One thing in the list is certainly incorrect, like:
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
He-he. Quite the opposite: 'You should not f..k before marriage'. Old folks remember slogan: "THERE IS NO SEX IN USSR". Could you believe that? :)
Thank God many people stayed their brains away from all that ****. I hate propaganda. If you know that you should do something - do it without delay. If you doubt - listen to everything but people who have their interest in convincing you. You know how easily people fall into that: 'Hey, we are great (Russians, Americans, Chinese, Germans, etc.). Those f..ng, stupid (Russians, Americans, Chinese, Germans, etc.) are our enemies!'. Damn, if I feel that someone is my enemy, I dont need anyone to convince me. If I dont feel so - no one could convince me. But it takes so little effort to convince ordinary person that people on the other side of the globe is his/hers enemies :< even when YOUR own goverment is your worst enemy.
 

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Caban said:
eka, no offence taken. This list is nothing compared to real things in USSR in 1960s! My folks told me about those times. Totalitarizm is mild word for what was happening, believe me.
One thing in the list is certainly incorrect, like:
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
He-he. Quite the opposite: 'You should not f..k before marriage'. Old folks remember slogan: "THERE IS NO SEX IN USSR". Could you believe that? :)
Thank God many people stayed their brains away from all that stuff. I hate propaganda. If you know that you should do something - do it without delay. If you doubt - listen to everything but people who have their interest in convincing you. You know how easily people fall into that: 'Hey, we are great (Russians, Americans, Chinese, Germans, etc.). Those f..ng, stupid (Russians, Americans, Chinese, Germans, etc.) are our enemies!'. Damn, if I feel that someone is my enemy, I dont need anyone to convince me. If I dont feel so - no one could convince me. But it takes so little effort to convince ordinary person that people on the other side of the globe is his/hers enemies :< even when YOUR own goverment is your worst enemy.
When I was going through my Civil Affairs class, we had a soldier that had been born in the USSR, but escaped across the border to Finland, and wound up in the Army. Anyway we were in the part of the class describing the + and - of economic systems how they worked etc. The instructor made the statement that at times a socilist economy is a good one to get a torn society(ie somilia) on it's feet then change over to a capitlist system. This soldier nutted up and started yelling. I will never forget her words. She said "If you had ever lived in a communist country you would know there is nothing good about it."

We have our propaganda here as well. Not as bad as the USSR, but it is here from our govt, as well as other secors of our society. It always amazes me how many people, even highly educated ones, can not think for themselvs, but spout out what is taught them.
 

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APK, I like the guy with gun raised. Does not he scream "I HATE PLASTIC FRAMES ON HANDGUNS!!! AARGHHH!". He-he, just kidding.
Never fought drunken Irish (though fought lot of drunken Russians - no firearms involved, only bottles, chairs and occasionally kitchenware:)). Now I'll remember to borrow 12.7*99 V94 if I encounter one - thank for the tip :>
 

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Caban said:
APK, I like the guy with gun raised. Does not he scream "I HATE PLASTIC FRAMES ON HANDGUNS!!! AARGHHH!". He-he, just kidding.
Never fought drunken Irish (though fought lot of drunken Russians - no firearms involved, only bottles, chairs and occasionally kitchenware:)). Now I'll remember to borrow 12.7*99 V94 if I encounter one - thank for the tip :>
The Irish fight for fun if nothing else. Looser buys the next round. Just because an Irishman fights you doesn't mean he doesn't like you. :lol:
 

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35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI
i would have thought they would have been more worries with the CIA, also was the NSA around back in the day, i know its a fairly new agency, just not sure how new


but some of those goals obviously apear like they were made by men...
he instructor made the statement that at times a socilist economy is a good one to get a torn society(ie somilia) on it's feet then change over to a capitlist system.
if mankind didnt think or feel for their own safety/wellbeing, that might be true lol....i hate statements like that, its like ok im sorry but sometimes you cant just look at the numbers, sometimes the x and y factors arent the only ones there
 

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shikaku said:
i would have thought they would have been more worries with the CIA, also was the NSA around back in the day, i know its a fairly new agency, just not sure how new
The NSA has been around since the late 40's but kept super secret. There are also a couple of shall we say lesser know agincies. The thing with the FBI is they are the ones that do counter intellegance in the US. The CIA can not operate within the US, so during the cold war they were/are the ones that track down spies within the US. Also Hoover, the FBI chief for 30 or 40 years was a vehmint anticommunist and went after them with a vengance both in and outside the US.
 

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The thing with the FBI is they are the ones that do counter intellegance in the US.
dont forget about latin america too

but i mentioned it because i would figure they would worry about us infiltrating them too
 
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