La Coruna M98 Mauser 1950
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Hi Hipo,
The only spanish mauser I've ever handled was in a gun store, and I've never shot one. It seemed like a...mauser lol
What I mean is the construction was sound, and it seemed like a decent rifle. Having never fired one though, and not knowing too much about them, I would figure that your best bet is to inspect that particular rifle.
How does the bore look? How heavy is the trigger? are the screws still in good shape and tight? How is the inside of the stock where it makes contact with the action and barrel? if the rifling is shiny and clean, and everything fits snug, it should be accurate.
One thing though, about surplus rifles and accuracy...Some people I've talked with didn't know that the lowest the sights can be set on many military rifles is often 200 or 300 meters, and because of that its not zeroed properly when you try it at 100m. North American factory ammo and the ammo the rifle was designed to fire often have different ballistics.
The best way to evaluate how a rifle shoots for yourself, if you would like to try is to fire it from a secure rest, take your time, and see what happens.
Hope I can help ya, all the guys here know way more than me lol.
The only spanish mauser I've ever handled was in a gun store, and I've never shot one. It seemed like a...mauser lol
What I mean is the construction was sound, and it seemed like a decent rifle. Having never fired one though, and not knowing too much about them, I would figure that your best bet is to inspect that particular rifle.
How does the bore look? How heavy is the trigger? are the screws still in good shape and tight? How is the inside of the stock where it makes contact with the action and barrel? if the rifling is shiny and clean, and everything fits snug, it should be accurate.
One thing though, about surplus rifles and accuracy...Some people I've talked with didn't know that the lowest the sights can be set on many military rifles is often 200 or 300 meters, and because of that its not zeroed properly when you try it at 100m. North American factory ammo and the ammo the rifle was designed to fire often have different ballistics.
The best way to evaluate how a rifle shoots for yourself, if you would like to try is to fire it from a secure rest, take your time, and see what happens.
Hope I can help ya, all the guys here know way more than me lol.
Hello 225hippo,
You ask a loaded question, no pun intented. I have owned one of those mausers and it was a fine rifle for hunting. However my particular model was in no way a decent target rifle. now having never seen your son's rifle the suggestions I make are verbatem of your particular circumstances.
If your son is serious about this sport here is my suggestion.
To make his current rifle into a tack driver or somthing close will run you to at least $600.00 By the time you add a new barrel and have a few other things done that is what you will burn in the least. Now if your son is not serious and you have invested all that money in the mauser it would money wasted because the resale recovery on that mauser would be way less than what you invested.Say 30% or enough to anger you.
Now here in an option I would suggest,
For the same price of the upgrades to your current rifle you could purchase a savage model 10fp either tac. version or a target version from walmart for about $500ish.check their wbsite. Then maybe a good burris 3-9X scope. for about $250ish.depending on where you shop.Try the internet. The savage model10fp has everything your son needs to get started and even into the semi pro stage straight from the factory without sending the rifle to a gunsmith. Barrel,trigger and finish are great. Now you have a modern long range rifle that is the perfect for your son. If he shines to the sport than you can start upgrading things on his rifle a peice at a time.
Now if he runs the oposite way and this is just a fad you can resell the rifle locally or say on gunbroker.com and recover 80% of your investment. to sell it might take a few weeks or longer,but you've only spent $150.00 to indulge your son.
Now if money is a major issue have your son raise half of the investment or have him break his back on your lawn or other such heavy labour intensive work. It's always a good time to paint the house.
As far as specific gear just shop around, good deals are every where.
the only other suggestion I have then is practice as much and as STRUCTURED as possible. Learn to keep a log book and data cards. A great place to get those is right here. this site sells great log books CHEAP!!
If information is a problem get the book "The military and police sniper", by Mike Lau. this book is exceptionally well written on the subject. and will provide you with all the information you will need.
Well sorry for the long ramble and vering a little off topic but in my humble opinion this would give your son the best start with the least amount of financial risk to you.
Cheers
You ask a loaded question, no pun intented. I have owned one of those mausers and it was a fine rifle for hunting. However my particular model was in no way a decent target rifle. now having never seen your son's rifle the suggestions I make are verbatem of your particular circumstances.
If your son is serious about this sport here is my suggestion.
To make his current rifle into a tack driver or somthing close will run you to at least $600.00 By the time you add a new barrel and have a few other things done that is what you will burn in the least. Now if your son is not serious and you have invested all that money in the mauser it would money wasted because the resale recovery on that mauser would be way less than what you invested.Say 30% or enough to anger you.
Now here in an option I would suggest,
For the same price of the upgrades to your current rifle you could purchase a savage model 10fp either tac. version or a target version from walmart for about $500ish.check their wbsite. Then maybe a good burris 3-9X scope. for about $250ish.depending on where you shop.Try the internet. The savage model10fp has everything your son needs to get started and even into the semi pro stage straight from the factory without sending the rifle to a gunsmith. Barrel,trigger and finish are great. Now you have a modern long range rifle that is the perfect for your son. If he shines to the sport than you can start upgrading things on his rifle a peice at a time.
Now if he runs the oposite way and this is just a fad you can resell the rifle locally or say on gunbroker.com and recover 80% of your investment. to sell it might take a few weeks or longer,but you've only spent $150.00 to indulge your son.
Now if money is a major issue have your son raise half of the investment or have him break his back on your lawn or other such heavy labour intensive work. It's always a good time to paint the house.
As far as specific gear just shop around, good deals are every where.
the only other suggestion I have then is practice as much and as STRUCTURED as possible. Learn to keep a log book and data cards. A great place to get those is right here. this site sells great log books CHEAP!!
If information is a problem get the book "The military and police sniper", by Mike Lau. this book is exceptionally well written on the subject. and will provide you with all the information you will need.
Well sorry for the long ramble and vering a little off topic but in my humble opinion this would give your son the best start with the least amount of financial risk to you.
Cheers
if you are gonna consider getting another rifle Remington is a bit more expensive but their model 700P is a very nice rifle
in my opinion they have a better stock than the Savage and a smoother action, they are about even as far as out of the box accuracy is concerned, Savage has a nicer trigger (accu trigger) yet my Rem 700P has a very nice trigger set really low, most dont, Savage has a better price
both are upgradable should you want to ever go upgrade crazy or just make a few enhancements
in my opinion they have a better stock than the Savage and a smoother action, they are about even as far as out of the box accuracy is concerned, Savage has a nicer trigger (accu trigger) yet my Rem 700P has a very nice trigger set really low, most dont, Savage has a better price
both are upgradable should you want to ever go upgrade crazy or just make a few enhancements
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Hi 225hipo
How about posting a photo of your Spanish Mauser.....I've got a 1953 FR8 Fabrica de Armas from La Coruna.
It's a great little bush rifle...no tack driver but shoots "minute of deer" at 100M ..... with open sights gets about 2" to 3"
To get your son's to shoot well, I would ask "How well?".....what is it shooting now?.....given it's an old milsurp rifle, what level of accuracy would you be happy with....1"?....1 1/2"?....two?
As a start I'd recomend re-crowning the muzzle and get the trigger gear polished and lightened up a bit...(I did my own and it feels way better)
If you want a real tack driver......Kenshin and Jeff850 are on the nail!
What muzzleblast says is excelent advice and a precursor to what I've chipped in.
All the best with it!.....Cheers.
How about posting a photo of your Spanish Mauser.....I've got a 1953 FR8 Fabrica de Armas from La Coruna.
It's a great little bush rifle...no tack driver but shoots "minute of deer" at 100M ..... with open sights gets about 2" to 3"
To get your son's to shoot well, I would ask "How well?".....what is it shooting now?.....given it's an old milsurp rifle, what level of accuracy would you be happy with....1"?....1 1/2"?....two?
As a start I'd recomend re-crowning the muzzle and get the trigger gear polished and lightened up a bit...(I did my own and it feels way better)
If you want a real tack driver......Kenshin and Jeff850 are on the nail!
What muzzleblast says is excelent advice and a precursor to what I've chipped in.
All the best with it!.....Cheers.
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Kiwi, you said it better than I could. What is the rifle meant for, after all...and what is acceptable accuracy? If the goal is 2 moa, and the mauser can shoot it, well thats as accurate as plenty of hunting rifles.
I thought about a mauser project myself not long ago, with a Yugo m48 in mind...New stock, bedded, aftermarket trigger, scout scope or maybe a good old standard 3-9x40. I think there is a lot of potential in a surplus mauser. Maybe not sniping wise, but for a plinker or hunter, definately.
Those FR-8s do look like great brush guns! I wouldn't mind chasing deer around the thick timber here with one.
I thought about a mauser project myself not long ago, with a Yugo m48 in mind...New stock, bedded, aftermarket trigger, scout scope or maybe a good old standard 3-9x40. I think there is a lot of potential in a surplus mauser. Maybe not sniping wise, but for a plinker or hunter, definately.
Those FR-8s do look like great brush guns! I wouldn't mind chasing deer around the thick timber here with one.
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Yes, the FR8 is so cheap for a bush gun....mine was $375 NZd....$230 USd
They have the CETME barrels at 17" long with a small flash-hider adding
1 3/4" ....this helps to protect the crown when back-slung and climbing up steep slopes to hunt the ridges. Our bush is VERY thick in places....you have to be hands-free squirming and twisting almost tunneling through to break out into open forrest!
The CETMEs are chrome bore...try wearing that out with bolt action!!
I have gained great pleasure from carefully sanding down the old stock wood and re-oiling it, also having it re-phosphated by the NZ army.....they are quite helpfull like that.
They have the CETME barrels at 17" long with a small flash-hider adding
1 3/4" ....this helps to protect the crown when back-slung and climbing up steep slopes to hunt the ridges. Our bush is VERY thick in places....you have to be hands-free squirming and twisting almost tunneling through to break out into open forrest!
The CETMEs are chrome bore...try wearing that out with bolt action!!
I have gained great pleasure from carefully sanding down the old stock wood and re-oiling it, also having it re-phosphated by the NZ army.....they are quite helpfull like that.
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Wonder if I can get our army to help work on any of my rifles? lol.
Sounds like you have some places just as ugly as we do here Thats the kind of spots the big bucks like though, and not somewhere I would like to bring my tactical rifle. There must be a lot of Enfields on the market down there too, a SMLE was my first brush gun, but the CETME sounds a lot handier. Maybe I'll get a jungle carbine lol. I like military rifles for hunting because I find them to be more resiliant.
If I ever come upon a CETME though, its moine!
Sounds like you have some places just as ugly as we do here
Thats the kind of spots the big bucks like though, and not somewhere I would like to bring my tactical rifle. There must be a lot of Enfields on the market down there too, a SMLE was my first brush gun, but the CETME sounds a lot handier. Maybe I'll get a jungle carbine lol. I like military rifles for hunting because I find them to be more resiliant.If I ever come upon a CETME though, its moine!
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Here's one for ya Muzzleblast!
a friend's dad (a Kiwi) flew with the Canadian Air Force in the 50's and early 60's.
He bought back to NZ my friend's mother (a Canadian) and an unfired 1945, No. 5 jungle Carbine in it's original canvas bag.....he told me he paid $27 for it in 1957....he has not yet fired it!!!
There are .303's all over the place....heaps of them.
a friend's dad (a Kiwi) flew with the Canadian Air Force in the 50's and early 60's.
He bought back to NZ my friend's mother (a Canadian) and an unfired 1945, No. 5 jungle Carbine in it's original canvas bag.....he told me he paid $27 for it in 1957....he has not yet fired it!!!
There are .303's all over the place....heaps of them.
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Hooooley crap!
I wonder what an unfired jungle carbine would fetch today...if I tried to buy one for that price people would think I was smoking crack lol.
Was there an exchange program between our forces?
Wow...well you weren't kidding when you said you had one for me lol. I think in a few weeks when I have the dough I'll look for one of my own. I dunno though. I want entirely too many guns right now. Just in 303's I dunno if I want one of those or a P-14 yet.
Heaps of em here too...I guess .303 brit is to Canada what 30-30 is to the States.
I wonder what an unfired jungle carbine would fetch today...if I tried to buy one for that price people would think I was smoking crack lol.
Was there an exchange program between our forces?
Wow...well you weren't kidding when you said you had one for me lol. I think in a few weeks when I have the dough I'll look for one of my own. I dunno though. I want entirely too many guns right now. Just in 303's I dunno if I want one of those or a P-14 yet.
Heaps of em here too...I guess .303 brit is to Canada what 30-30 is to the States.
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