Lapping the rings.
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Lapping the rings of a rifle scope is what they do to make a uniform surface for your scope to be on. What they do is use a rod with a handle on the top and put a type of cream and then you move it over the rings, which takes the little extra stuff from the surface and makes a smooth and uniform surface for a scope.
To add to morph's reply
When you lap scope rings you are taking a solid steel rod with a lapping cream, which has an extremely fine grit and moving it back and forth while rotating it within the limits of the rod. You only have to lap the bottom rings. What you are doing is "sanding" the rings down so that when the barrel of the scope is laid in the rings, there will be a uniform surface of pressure on the scope body. This will also help line up the scope to the holes drilled in the action.
I would lap the rings on any set with the exception of either Badger Ordinance or USO. Leupold, IOR, others should be lapped as they are usually not straight.
When you lap scope rings you are taking a solid steel rod with a lapping cream, which has an extremely fine grit and moving it back and forth while rotating it within the limits of the rod. You only have to lap the bottom rings. What you are doing is "sanding" the rings down so that when the barrel of the scope is laid in the rings, there will be a uniform surface of pressure on the scope body. This will also help line up the scope to the holes drilled in the action.
I would lap the rings on any set with the exception of either Badger Ordinance or USO. Leupold, IOR, others should be lapped as they are usually not straight.
On the subject of TPS rings. Of course you must be a TPS "forum" member or they will be "out of stock" for a few weeks.
Yes, this is from personal experience where I called to order a set of TPS rings and was told they were out of stock for two weeks. Then a buddy of mine told me to join their (TPS's) forum, call up and tell them you are a forum member and they will get them to you right away. Sure enough, I join and all of a sudden they have the rings in stock.
I'm not sure if I like a company that operates like that.
Yes, this is from personal experience where I called to order a set of TPS rings and was told they were out of stock for two weeks. Then a buddy of mine told me to join their (TPS's) forum, call up and tell them you are a forum member and they will get them to you right away. Sure enough, I join and all of a sudden they have the rings in stock.
I'm not sure if I like a company that operates like that.
For the Record:
On our builds we fill the vendors first then the back orders. What is left "We give forum members first choice before they are put on the website for everyone else to purchase." This is a bonus for forum members as is our forum members being put in a monthly drawing for there choice of 1 set of rings or 1 base.
Customer Service and Product Reliability are our goals.
On our builds we fill the vendors first then the back orders. What is left "We give forum members first choice before they are put on the website for everyone else to purchase." This is a bonus for forum members as is our forum members being put in a monthly drawing for there choice of 1 set of rings or 1 base.
Customer Service and Product Reliability are our goals.
FWIW, I understand about the vendors, but as far as forum members priority goes, it's your business to do with as you please but I don't understand how you can grow new business operating in that manner. There should be no justification, unless you are selling contact information, that I should need to sign up for a forum I'm not going to use to be on the priority list to purchase product. I have never had to do that with Marty at Badger or John at USO.
I have two new rifles I need rings for and was going to give TPS a try. However, since I need to wait as a "non-forum" member, maybe I'll wait until the next rifle comes along. Then, if TPS is not out of stock, I'll give them a try.
You should reward your customers by how often they buy from you, not whether they surf your site frequently.
I have two new rifles I need rings for and was going to give TPS a try. However, since I need to wait as a "non-forum" member, maybe I'll wait until the next rifle comes along. Then, if TPS is not out of stock, I'll give them a try.
You should reward your customers by how often they buy from you, not whether they surf your site frequently.
It's not like our forum members buy our whole build plan. That's just our reward for our forum users as we enjoy them and take there needs and ideas to future products. I'm sorry if your not satisfied with our forum user promotions and benefits, but that is the way we choose to do our business.
We do have rings showing in stock on our website? Not sure what you were needing?
We do have rings showing in stock on our website? Not sure what you were needing?
I can see both sides of this argument. For manufacturers, it is very important to get a captive and attentive audience. I can understand why rewarding list members could be a priority, its nice to take care of those that have been fans, contribute and support the company. On the other hand, I can also understand your point spade about trying to service all customers the same and as fast/best as possible.
Just differing matters of business opinion. A company has to find its own niche and priorities and stick to them. Some will like them, some will not... its business.
MEL
Just differing matters of business opinion. A company has to find its own niche and priorities and stick to them. Some will like them, some will not... its business.
MEL
Mel,
I can see where the names are close, but come on, I'm much more antagonistic. :twisted:
TPS,
I need a set of tactical rings, medium height, in 30mm. I see they are available on your website. I will call next week when I get back.
What is the difference between your different rings? And are they milled from the same piece of steel as the Badgers? Hence the lack of lapping?
I can see where the names are close, but come on, I'm much more antagonistic. :twisted:
TPS,
I need a set of tactical rings, medium height, in 30mm. I see they are available on your website. I will call next week when I get back.
What is the difference between your different rings? And are they milled from the same piece of steel as the Badgers? Hence the lack of lapping?
TSR Series Rings, precisely machined from an alloy steel billet, with tolerances held to .0002", give maximum scope/ring contact. Large, clamp-nut lets you torque rings to Mil-STD 1913 (Picatinny) bases.
TSR "W" Series Rings, precisely machined from an alloy steel billet, with tolerances held to .0002", give maximum scope/ring contact. Large, clamp-nut lets you torque rings to Weaver-style or Mil-STD 1913 (Picatinny) bases.
HRT Series Rings, precisely machined from an alloy steel billet, with tolerances held to .0002", give maximum scope/ring contact. Radiused edges and corners help prevent snagging while providing attractive appearance. Large, clamp-nut lets you torque rings to Weaver-type or Picatinny bases.
We have 416 Stainless Steel, 1215 Alloy Steel, 7075-T61 Aluminum Alloy and Titanium.
TSR "W" Series Rings, precisely machined from an alloy steel billet, with tolerances held to .0002", give maximum scope/ring contact. Large, clamp-nut lets you torque rings to Weaver-style or Mil-STD 1913 (Picatinny) bases.
HRT Series Rings, precisely machined from an alloy steel billet, with tolerances held to .0002", give maximum scope/ring contact. Radiused edges and corners help prevent snagging while providing attractive appearance. Large, clamp-nut lets you torque rings to Weaver-type or Picatinny bases.
We have 416 Stainless Steel, 1215 Alloy Steel, 7075-T61 Aluminum Alloy and Titanium.
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So I won't even need to lap your rings even if I attach them to two piece bases on an out of spec receiver.TPS_Phil said:
Amazing, that Marty said that same thing about his Badger Rings. I lap all my rings. I don't care what the Manufacturers claim.
Yes that is what I'm saying:
Both Base and Cap of each scope ring is within .0002 of an inch cylindrical roundness, guaranteeing as much as 98% scope tube to ring contact. The necessity of serializing or lapping scope rings are now obsolete.
Use our basebed: Aluminum alignment bar helps you achieve perfect alignment between the scope ring bases and the receiver, with no lapping. Bases are aligned in three different planes before they are mounted on your weapon, ensuring perfect alignment when they are attached. Not even one piece base can ensure perfect alignment.
New Products for 2005: In conjunction with our already popular BASEBED alignment bar, TPS has now
developed the BASEBED Bravo Series. The BASEBED Bravo is now designed
specifically for Mil-STD 1913 (Picatinny) rails. The patent pending design
now has an integrated Picatinny cross-bolt alignment feature. That alone,
wouldn't do a whole lot of good for most folks. So that is why TPS has
developed the Two (2) piece base system which is FULLY Mil-STD 1913
compatible. The front and rear bases are precisely aligned front and rear
to the exact Mil-STD 1913 spacing, and is then precisely aligned with the
BASEBED Bravo alignment bar, guaranteeing that all the cross-slots on both
front and rear bases are aligned as one unit. All of this provides the user
the ability to use TPS's unique aligned Two (2) piece bases, while enjoying
the full clearance in the ejection port area and also being able to remove
and/or replace with another optics which may have been on a Picatinny
One-Piece rail, without having to dismount your rings from the scope.
>From this point on, TPS has eliminated the old problem of having to
compromise between One-Piece and Two-Piece bases for ejection port
clearance. You now can have ample ejection port clearance and keep your
bases to True Picatinny spacing specs. TPS will be offering the new Two (2)
piece bases in -0- MOA as well as -20- MOA, for the Remington, Winchester
and Savage rifles.
Both Base and Cap of each scope ring is within .0002 of an inch cylindrical roundness, guaranteeing as much as 98% scope tube to ring contact. The necessity of serializing or lapping scope rings are now obsolete.
Use our basebed: Aluminum alignment bar helps you achieve perfect alignment between the scope ring bases and the receiver, with no lapping. Bases are aligned in three different planes before they are mounted on your weapon, ensuring perfect alignment when they are attached. Not even one piece base can ensure perfect alignment.
New Products for 2005: In conjunction with our already popular BASEBED alignment bar, TPS has now
developed the BASEBED Bravo Series. The BASEBED Bravo is now designed
specifically for Mil-STD 1913 (Picatinny) rails. The patent pending design
now has an integrated Picatinny cross-bolt alignment feature. That alone,
wouldn't do a whole lot of good for most folks. So that is why TPS has
developed the Two (2) piece base system which is FULLY Mil-STD 1913
compatible. The front and rear bases are precisely aligned front and rear
to the exact Mil-STD 1913 spacing, and is then precisely aligned with the
BASEBED Bravo alignment bar, guaranteeing that all the cross-slots on both
front and rear bases are aligned as one unit. All of this provides the user
the ability to use TPS's unique aligned Two (2) piece bases, while enjoying
the full clearance in the ejection port area and also being able to remove
and/or replace with another optics which may have been on a Picatinny
One-Piece rail, without having to dismount your rings from the scope.
>From this point on, TPS has eliminated the old problem of having to
compromise between One-Piece and Two-Piece bases for ejection port
clearance. You now can have ample ejection port clearance and keep your
bases to True Picatinny spacing specs. TPS will be offering the new Two (2)
piece bases in -0- MOA as well as -20- MOA, for the Remington, Winchester
and Savage rifles.
I have a feeling were this is going so check out this link:
http://www.basebed.com/pdf/Basebed_Inst ... ctions.pdf
http://www.basebed.com/pdf/Basebed_Inst ... ctions.pdf
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