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Alright, recently I've been on the market for a nice long range rifle. I've been looking at a few options.

-Remington 700pss .308 cal. (how could I ignore it?)
-Browning M-1000 Eclipse 7mm RSM (any negatives with the short mags?)
-Savage 12BVSS .308

-Remington VLSSTH. This rifle is only available in .204 ruger and .22-250 so I don't think it's capable of long shots. Also I'm not sure if it could take down a deer since I would also hunt with this gun. Let me know what you think though. What I'd really love to do is to put a Remington .308 action into this gun's stock because I love the design.

If any of you own one of these guns or if you have shot them or have any more info that I may not have have, let me know.
 

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as far as the 22-250 taking down deer, i shot one this morning at a paced out 190 yards and when it hit, the deer bounced off the ground and i do mean bounced.

It also depends on what you mean by long range, a 22-250 would be great out to 500 yards. With a very flat trajectory its easy to predict and great for prarie dogs. :twisted:
 

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.22-250 is capable but over here not legal
if its legal in your state i think the correct .223 load with the correct shot placement is more than adaquate for deer
however i had no choice but to use something over 6mm and for that i used a .308 which is more than sufficient
 

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I own a 700P (700PSS when I got mine). Love it. 3/4 MOA out fo the box tighten down to 1/2 moa - provided the bozo behind the stock does his part.

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What I'd really love to do is to put a Remington .308 action into this gun's stock because I love the design.
Well, if you got the .22-250, this would be a simple barrel swap as the .22-250 and the .308 have the same case head diameter, so you can use the same bolt. Yeah, the barrel and labor to put it on will cost money though.

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mels right as always, and it gives you a chance to get one of those spiffy match grade barrels cut.
 

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To swap to .308, all you need is to have a gun smith take off your old barrel, put on the new barrel, chamber and headspace the new barrel, and then reblue it (if its not going to all be stainless steel).

No need getting a factory barrel, in fact, I would suggest NOT getting a remington barrel. If you are going to do a swap out, get a good barrel. Shilen, Krieger, Hart, MT Rifleman, Douglas, etc etc. Most all of them will contour one of their barrels to the same deminsions as the remington barrels.

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Longe Range Rifle

I can sing praises about the accuracy of Savage rifles. I read a great deal about the out of the box accuracy of Savage rifles before I bought mine. They were not lying. I love my LE model. I will be hunting with it for the first time next week.
 

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another alternative would be to buy a 700P or whateever else in the caliber you like, then call up boyds rifle stocks and have them make you a stock like that... i believe they make something very similar and it would get you out of it for 150 dollars as opposed to spending 3-400 for a good barell.
 

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Just to give you an idea on what it cost to have a good gunsmith to change a barrel

MT Rifleman 30 cal CM 26" barrel $150+ shipping.(#6 contour).

Smith wants $350 for all of the action work, trigger work, mount barrel & cut and crown the barrel. That is with no finish on the metal, I am doing that part. If you want a hart barrel be prepared to pay about $300 just for the barrel (and it goes up from there).
 

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Spade,

GREAT POINT!! Boyds probably makes those stocks for Remington anyway....

It would be a cheaper way to do it, AND you get to glass bed it in the process, helping accuracy

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whats wrong with the standard HS stock the 700P
why not just keep that and glass bed it
its certainately a good stock and you can save a lot of money
am i missing something?
 

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Mel, you're right, I think Boyds makes those stocks for Remington cuz they sell an identical stock for less than $100! This is definitly a better option than the whole barrel swap. As for the stock that comes with the 700p, I have no real problem with it, however I like the thumbhole stocks because they feel more like a pistol grip and feel easier to control.
 

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yeah, i thought you might get out of it cheaper that way, and the 700P's are well known to be 1/2 MOA shooters when the right dipshit gets behind the butt of it.

When you get ready for something amazing you can still go to a full cusotm barrel or mabye even a custom action.
 

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why am i thinking savage 116 300 rem mag ultra mag(got one and love it,still need to fine sight it in after deer season)
go read specs at remington on ammo for this gun its pretty frikin awesome thats why i got one and yes the price is right
 
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