[DEADCENTER26]

hi im new to shooting and im considering purchasing a rifle. Ive only shot a .22 and i havnt shot anything else. i was looking around at remington 700 (.308). well for just beggining i needed some advice and good price ranges. Is it ok to purchase a rifle from a pawn shop? and well any suggestions would help.

thanks

 

[mele]

DEAD:

I would suggest you search the rifles section on this forum first, as we have answered many questions about various rifles and calibers, and costs, etc. If you have some specific questions after that, we would be happy to answer those questions!!

Also, be sure to check out the FAQ on the forums section, and on the main page http://www.snipercentral.com/faq.htm as I answer some of these questions there also.

good luck

MEL

 

[Jeff_850]

id check out the Remington 700P in .308 Win its a great rifle, shoots very well, love the HS stock on it too

what range will you be shooting on? you might want to consider a .223 even

 

[muzzleblast]

What would ya like to use the new rifle for?

 

[DEADCENTER26]

Well i want to start to do a little deer hunting and do some range shooting. id really also like to learn how to shoot long range distances and learn about ballistics and stuff like that. but i was looking at a Remington 700 vs (.308). what do you guys think any pros and cons about the rifle would be great

Thanks
Zeke

 

[SpEcTeR]

Zeke,

The R700 VS is basically a 700P with a different HS stock. There are some who would argue that the rifles are much more different and there could be evidence to suggest this as the VS is sold as a varmint rifle and the 700P is sold as a tactical police-use driven rifle.

If you find a good deal on a 700VS I would say to go for it and get some trigger time going. Depending on your availlable resources you could grow with the rifle and upgrade it as your skill grows. If you are financially ready for a larger purchase you can look at some complete accurized rifles smithed by greats such as Tac Ops or Patriot. There are many others mentioned here that produce excellent work.

Your choice is usually dependent on your intended use and your goals. Hope this helps.

 

[DEADCENTER26]

I had a question on the stocks. I looked at the VS and the P stocks and they look really similar when you has HS what do you mean because they look very similar to me. I also had a question on the M24 stock. how much would a stock like that run for? just wondering about different stocks and how they make a difference.

thanks,

Zeke

 

[madgunsmith]

You should go to your local rifle range and talk to the shooters there. They will let you try out their rifles if you ask nicely. And that way, you can learn what rifle feels best for you. The rifle that I like, may not feel right for you.

A really great way to start shooting is to find a good military surplus bolt action rifle. Now Mitchell's Mausers has Mauser 98 rifles in new condition for sale. The price is only $245. These are in 8mm caliber. This is one of the all time great classic rifles. You can find Mitchell's advertisement in the Shotgun News. The phone no for Mitchell's is 800-274-4124.

For less than $100 you can also buy a basic handloading set up and you would be on your way. The way to really learn the basics of rifle marksmanship is to really learn about one rifle in particular. And if you handload for one rifle, you will learn about that one rifle.

If you go to a gunshop or pawnshop to buy a used rifle, you should go there with someone who knows how to pick out a good rifle. There are many bargains to be had, but you have to know what to look for.

Madgunsmith.

 

[Jeff_850]

http://www.hsprecision.com/pst03a.htm

$295
thats the basic price that most HS stocks cost, some are a bit mroe expensive though and thats what 700P and VS stocks cost too i think

 

[DEADCENTER26]

How come Some of M700s have iron sights and others dont?

 

[Jeff_850]

just differnt designs intended for differnt purposes
some of thier hunting rifles have it some dont... not sure why some dont and some do though
just intended for hunting, you wont see iron sights on thier more accurate series (Sendero SF, VS, LTR, P, VSF, VLS, SF SF... think thats all of them) with heavier varmint contour barrels made for long range precision shooting of shooting small objects (varmints) dont come with irons though but it would be nice if they had them as backups

 

[DEADCENTER26]

Thanks for the Info guys. o just for the heck of it i was looking at opsinc.com for fun and they advertise products right but they dont give prices. How do the expect to sell stuff with no prices. Are supressors illeagle? o and Remingtonle.com does that to they dont give prices on the site.

Thanks
zeke

 

[Jeff_850]

RemingtonLe supposedly doesnt sell to the public but thats not true, many dealers here get them and say this is a sniper rifle of choice for police lol it works well see too many people buy the Remingotn 700P for that reason, easy to market that way but really its a great gun and i certainately didnt get mine because of the salesmen, they reccomended i got a lightweight Tikka but i knew at that point what i was getting

supressors arnt illegal but you need a class III permit, you would have to check your state's laws on what is required and all for what bs and how much bs you need to go thorugh to get it

 

[mele]

I believe 38 of the 50 states allow suppressors now. But you have to fill out the Form 4 and pay the $200 tax stamp. The form 4 involves finger printing and registering the suppressor with its serial number, etc. etc

MEL

 

[DEADCENTER26]

oo good stuff ya i was just checking the supressors out for fun just cuz it was on other sites list on SC. but i had another question are their kits out there to build your own rifle like they do with black powder rifle kits? ive been looking around just i cant find a complete kit.

thanks

Zeke

 

[Scatch Maroo]

o just for the heck of it i was looking at opsinc.com for fun and they advertise products right but they dont give prices. How do the expect to sell stuff with no prices.

It's been my experience that when a business doesn't advertise the price, it's either because they want WAY too much money, or they're selling for a price below a limit set by the manufacturer, a limit when surpassed makes it illegal to advertise the uber low price. Give 'em a call and you'll see which way they're going.

Scatch Maroo

 

[mele]

In terms of building a rifle, there are what is called 80% receivers that you are allowed to finish. It can only be for personal use and you cannot sell the firearm. There is no serial number on the receivers. This is more popular for pistols (1911's, Sigs, etc) and some AR's, but there really is not a lot to chose from, and you have to be at least a little knowledgable about metal working. But there are no full "kits" like for black powder, its not legal.

MEL

 

[Jeff_850]

i think that if you get your own 80% reciever you can put pre-ban/post ban parts on it all you want and that there are no restrictions
does this include select fire trigger if i can find one as a 'part' or what about a supressor
just wondering then since my metalworking skills are insufficient to finish this, could i have someone more knowladable help
no plans to actually do this i just want to undertsnad the law