I'm currently looking at an interesting package deal, and there's a Bushnell Banner 3-9x40 scope included. I have very little experience with Bushnell scopes, therefore I'm wondering if you could give me some advice on wether it's an ok scope or if it's a piece of junk.
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Nek,
Anything below the Bushnell elite 3200's are not really worth buying. The 3200 and 4200 series is what USED to be Boush & Lomb. The trophy's and others are their low end scopes and are not that good of quality. The 3200's are a good buy, and the 4200's are a very good scope
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Anything below the Bushnell elite 3200's are not really worth buying. The 3200 and 4200 series is what USED to be Boush & Lomb. The trophy's and others are their low end scopes and are not that good of quality. The 3200's are a good buy, and the 4200's are a very good scope
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Definitely. My brother had a Banner 6-18x on a varmint rifle for all of an hour before ripping it off in disgust and putting some money into getting a good scope. Best advice- yank the scope the second you buy it and put something -anything- better on it.
OK, thanks for the advice.
The package deal is a Weatherby Vanguard Synthetic with that scope and rings, for around $964, and it's available in 7.62x51, .30-06, .300WM and .338WM. The rifle is nice, but if the scope's that crappy, I'm starting to wonder if it's really worth it...
The package deal is a Weatherby Vanguard Synthetic with that scope and rings, for around $964, and it's available in 7.62x51, .30-06, .300WM and .338WM. The rifle is nice, but if the scope's that crappy, I'm starting to wonder if it's really worth it...
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Is that $964 US dollars? Because if it is than that is more a rip-off than a deal. The Vanguard Synthetic only retails for about $400-$450 USD, and that scope doesn't cost a cent more than $100. My advice would be to find just the Vanguard you want for around half of what they are asking and spend the money you'll save to put into a good scope. But honestly I wouldn't buy that package.
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And if you want to spend about $900 dollars on a Weatherby rifle, there are better ones to be had.
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But don't get me wrong, the VAnguard synthetic is a really nice rifle, just not for THAT amount of money.
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If your willing to spend that much perhaps you could look into a Heckler and Koch G3SG/1 which is the sniping version of the HK G3 (standard German Army rifle). It is carried by the Sweedish national Guard and might be more readily accesible to you without the export/import duties.
If not this one I still have to agree with Jake, there are other rifles to be bought for that amount of money that would be better suited for serious sniping.
The MSG 90, which is also made by HK might be another alternative, due to the fact that you are in Sweden. I have heard that the Sako TRG 21 in 7.62 or the TRG 41 338 Lapua both produce great results. Since these are manufactured in Finland they could also be an option. Keep us posted as to what you decide to go with.
If not this one I still have to agree with Jake, there are other rifles to be bought for that amount of money that would be better suited for serious sniping.
The MSG 90, which is also made by HK might be another alternative, due to the fact that you are in Sweden. I have heard that the Sako TRG 21 in 7.62 or the TRG 41 338 Lapua both produce great results. Since these are manufactured in Finland they could also be an option. Keep us posted as to what you decide to go with.
Specter:
First of all, I'm a member of the Swedish Home Guards(What you call the swedish national guard), and not all of us are armed with the AK4OR. Also, it's not available to civilians, and neither is the MSG90.
As for the TRG series, they are far more expensive than the current rifle I'm looking at. The comparable thing from SAKO would be the SAKO 75 Synthetic Stainless model, and it costs around the same.
First of all, I'm a member of the Swedish Home Guards(What you call the swedish national guard), and not all of us are armed with the AK4OR. Also, it's not available to civilians, and neither is the MSG90.
As for the TRG series, they are far more expensive than the current rifle I'm looking at. The comparable thing from SAKO would be the SAKO 75 Synthetic Stainless model, and it costs around the same.
Nek,
The Vangaurd rifles actually use a Howa barreled action, any chance you can get Howa stuff over there? Might be cheaper to stock your own Howa barreled action.
And one other alternative, Tikka T3 Varmint Synthetic, I'll be reviewing one soon. Seems to be a nice rifle worth looking at. They offer stainless and matte in a lot of different calibers. They also will be making a tactical version, but the extra cost of that version doesn't seem to fit with what you get over the varmint.
MEL
The Vangaurd rifles actually use a Howa barreled action, any chance you can get Howa stuff over there? Might be cheaper to stock your own Howa barreled action.
And one other alternative, Tikka T3 Varmint Synthetic, I'll be reviewing one soon. Seems to be a nice rifle worth looking at. They offer stainless and matte in a lot of different calibers. They also will be making a tactical version, but the extra cost of that version doesn't seem to fit with what you get over the varmint.
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Nek,
Well 'First of all' I don't know you and you don't know me therefore how on earth was I supposed to know that you were a home guard. Did you think about that. This is a website that is readily accesible worldwide...*frown* Second, if you are a home guard then...doesn't that exclude you from civilian status. Call me crAzy =0)
I suggested the items that I did to aid in your search, you seem to quickly badger anyone's suggestions. I think you assume too much of others and you assume to much of yourself. I was only trying to help. Relax. This is supposed to be a forum for mutual benefit in the exchange of knowledge.
Well 'First of all' I don't know you and you don't know me therefore how on earth was I supposed to know that you were a home guard. Did you think about that. This is a website that is readily accesible worldwide...*frown* Second, if you are a home guard then...doesn't that exclude you from civilian status. Call me crAzy =0)
I suggested the items that I did to aid in your search, you seem to quickly badger anyone's suggestions. I think you assume too much of others and you assume to much of yourself. I was only trying to help. Relax. This is supposed to be a forum for mutual benefit in the exchange of knowledge.
Mel:
The Tikka T3 is also fully on par with the Weatherby when it comes to cost over here, since it's a synthetic stock(Damn hunters wanting wooden laminate stocks). So, I guess my quest will have to continue, but thanks for the advice.
Specter: How about looking at my profile, as well as the avatar info next to my post? :wink:
The Tikka T3 is also fully on par with the Weatherby when it comes to cost over here, since it's a synthetic stock(Damn hunters wanting wooden laminate stocks). So, I guess my quest will have to continue, but thanks for the advice.
Specter: How about looking at my profile, as well as the avatar info next to my post? :wink:
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Nek,
Mel beat me to it, but I was going to suggest the Tikka also. I haven't owned one, but the reviews I've read and the owners I've talked to all rate them very highly. The ones I've looked at first hand seem to be of good quality. On the Bushnell Banner scopes, stay away from them. Optics are poor and they don't hold a zero well. They also don't do well on a gun with any appreciable recoil. As for Specter's comments, those of us that have been there recognize a fellow warrior. I don't have to know your profile to know you're the real deal, your responses and questions speak for themself.
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Mel beat me to it, but I was going to suggest the Tikka also. I haven't owned one, but the reviews I've read and the owners I've talked to all rate them very highly. The ones I've looked at first hand seem to be of good quality. On the Bushnell Banner scopes, stay away from them. Optics are poor and they don't hold a zero well. They also don't do well on a gun with any appreciable recoil. As for Specter's comments, those of us that have been there recognize a fellow warrior. I don't have to know your profile to know you're the real deal, your responses and questions speak for themself.
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Actually, the profile was quite relevant in this case, since I've listed that I'm in the Swedish Home Guards :wink:
The info just a click away. And a sniper is an intelligence asset too, so it's a good habit to pick up *Cheezy grin*
Actually, the profile was quite relevant in this case, since I've listed that I'm in the Swedish Home Guards :wink:
The info just a click away. And a sniper is an intelligence asset too, so it's a good habit to pick up *Cheezy grin*
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Nek,
Didn't say I hadn't read it, just said I didn't have too. Your answers in this forum are those of someone that speaks from experience. A good sniper pays attention to the smallest details. :wink:
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Didn't say I hadn't read it, just said I didn't have too. Your answers in this forum are those of someone that speaks from experience. A good sniper pays attention to the smallest details. :wink:
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