[mele]

There has been a few questions about wether I still plan to build a PH M85 replica. So I thought I would start this thread.

So, if I were to build a replica, how exact would it need to be? Would it have to be an exact replica built on a mauser based action with the iron sites, detachable magazine, McHale stock, the distinct trigger guard, PH Bi-pod etc? (Becomes fairly spendy)

Or, could it be a "similar" replica based on a remington 700, 10 round detachable magazine, large bolt handle (of course), McHale stock (with spacer system), no sites, front bi-pod spigot with versa-pod and cost $1800 - $1900 for everything listed?

MEL

 

[BuckSlayer]

The Rem. 700 idea is a good one in my opinion. I would be very interested in one if you were to build it. One of the things I really like about the idea is the detachable magazine because you don't find a lot of bolt actions with that option. I have an old Savage 30-30 bolt action with 3-round detachable mags and I just love it.

 

[Mulga]

Sorry I believe it wouldn't be a Parker Hale but another Remington clone.

You wouldn't be able to call it a PH M85 Replica.

Its like comparing apples and oranges.

 

[mele]

Sorry I believe it wouldn't be a Parker Hale but another Remington clone.

Correct, it would not be a PH, but some people may just be going for the general look and functionality of the M85 without the specific details. The double the cost of making an exact replica may not be worth it to most who are fans of the rifle. But thats what I'm trying to determine... please keep all the comments coming, whatever opinion it may be.

MEL

 

[morpheus]

I think you should just stick with the Remington action. If the mauser action cost double, that's not good enough reason to produce it. Unless a costomer specifically asks for it, of course you could do it that way. While I'm thinking about it, if it cost double for a Mauser action, couldn't you just get a Ruger M77 action? Or would it not fit into the stock?

Just my thoughts.

 

[Kiwi]

For me it's a tough call........

I realy like the idea of a faithfull replica, (especially the open sights)..........

But I also like the practicality of a cheaper Remington based version.

In this configuration the point of the exersise would be to replicate the desirable attributes of the M85 rather than the authenticity.....drop mags, open sights.....etc. etc.
I could live without the flash hidder in this option, but even then....just thread the barrel ready for one and screw on a thread protector.

Heh Mele.......offer both!

 

[muzzleblast]

hey, I think it would be cool. Detachable mag, big mauser claw extractor, european flavor...I think I'm kinda biased though.

FWIW, I handled a Paker Hale hunting rifle, with a thumbhole stock in 30-06, and I liked the fit/feel of it...Original would be cool, although I must admit, it was rather ruger like I suppose.

 

[Kamatz]

If it was practically sound to import a rifle from the US - I'd want the faithfull PH replica...although the detachable sights would be the last thing on my shopping list. Money is there to be spent - at least while I have them

But of course, if the price doubles..then it might not be much of a hit on the common market. And that's something you'll have to take into consideration, of course.

 

[mele]

Thanks for the opinions everyone... sounds like about an even split!

The reason the cost would be double is not because of the action (I can use CZ actions, or others that are very similar for about the same price as a remington) the cost is in the custom trigger guard with an engineered drop magazine solution. Also doing the Aux open sites will cost a bundle, as well as modifying the safety and the scope mounts to be authentic replications. That is what will drive the costs very high. (floor plate and magazine is biggest cost).

The "Rem-85" replica would be done with existing available parts which is why the cost would be about half. (around $1800). This includes detachable 10 round box mag, large bolt handle, McHale stock, Versa-pod mounted on front stud, etc. Heck, even if its not a PH M85 replica, it would be a cool system

MEL

 

[Yimmy]

re

This is just me, but I would get more satisfaction over making and selling my own rifle, than somebody elses design.
I think your 'alternative' M85 is a good idea.

 

[mele]

Re: re

This is just me, but I would get more satisfaction over making and selling my own rifle, than somebody elses design.

Valid point!! Thanks for reminding me!

MEL

 

[Mulga]

Well if you do go the Remington M700 option, I suggest you name it the SCM85

 

[spade]

To be honest mel, Irons and a box mag are two things i really think you should incorporate into your SC rifles, regardless of the parker. Flip up rears for 200 and 300 yards would really rock too.

 

[mele]

SCM85 is good... I like it

In regards to irons.... I'd like to hear opinions and provide links to possible ideas for irons.

thanks

MEL

 

[BuckSlayer]

In response to this quote:

The "Rem-85" replica would be done with existing available parts which is why the cost would be about half. (around $1800). This includes detachable 10 round box mag, large bolt handle, McHale stock, Versa-pod mounted on front stud, etc. Heck, even if its not a PH M85 replica, it would be a cool system - Mel

All this, plus some iron sights sounds ideal to me. I'm not married to any brand or certain type of irons, but I do think you should offer them as an option. They could be "cheap" as long as they work well. I just think they make the rifle more of an all around versatile gun. After all, if we're "snipers" we don't really need scopes until 250-350+ yards anyways.

 

[TOPO-sniper]

Since the wepon system I was issued in the Army did not have usable iron sights as a back-up, I'm curious how many "sniper" rifles do (other than the obvious M24)?

TOPO-sniper

 

[mele]

Well, There is a decent amount that do. The Parker Hale M85 did, which is why it came up in this thread.

M24, M85, M21 (in its day), XM25, Barrett M82A1 (XM107), SVD, Steyr SSG-69, FR-F2, M76, and some others. There are still others that also have provisions to attach aux sites also.

MEL

 

[bazzer]

Hi Mel
Just answered a previous enquiry from you so Ill repeat it here.
I have 4 original M85 stocks complete with handstop/buttspacers and all associated metalwork less barrels and receivers in my attic if this helps
Baz :lol:

 

[ChrisF]

M85 Replica

Hi Mel ,

I would look at the actions that Losok was bringing out , it maybe the way to go , Re the Irons , I would just make the rear , flat so it would not limit scope mounting options , but would have a set of folding irons similar to what a lot use on the M16's etc .

I would get a McHale stock , and get the forend shortened slightly , and lighter in weight , and made by Manners , just a thought .


Later CHris

 

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