[acp8045]

Hello all.....I'm new to the site and I must say that from the looks of it, many, if not all of you, have a vast knowledge in rifles (a great tool for those that are new to rifles). I've been reading many of the postings found here on Sniper Central and it seems that both the Remington 700 VS(.308) and the Savage 10 FLP(.308) are good choices for a lefty. I am very competent when it comes to handling pistols, but I cannot say the same with rifles. I've grown an interest and I'm looking at taking some courses in Law Enfrorcement Urban/Rural Sniper Training provided by a private company in my neck of the woods. I'm hoping that some day I'll be able to shoot targets at 1000 yds. away (difficult, but possible). I want a reliable, well-made rifle that is up for the task. Which rifle (Rem. 700VS .308 or Savage 10FLP .308) would do good (accuracy,durability,tactically,etc.)for the type of training that I desire? What type of advise do you have for those new to the game?

Thanks

 

[Jeff_850]

Savage with thier accu triggers is probably a better trigger, a huge improvement over thier older POS triggers anyway
the Remington has a far better stock, HS Precision kevlar/fiberglass beats the hell out of the cheap plastic Savage stocks
Remington's action is smoother, Remington has more aftermarket parts made for it as almost all world class sniper rifles are based on the Remington 700 action
accuracy is a toss up honeslty... there factory rifles so you can get a good or bad savage or remington but they generally shoot between 1/2 and 3/4 moa... a good one is going to be quite capable of 1/2" groups @ 100y

 

[muzzleblast]

What aftermarket parts would a shooter want to put on a 700P, Jeff? I'm just asking because yours sounds pretty exceptional...

The only thing I can figure is that the money you save on the Savage could be put into the rifle on either a new stock, or mount/optics, but the 700 series have a reputation...I've read Savages (I never fired a tactical one, only hunting rifles and it was true for them) usually shoot well enough out of the box.

 

[Jeff_850]

What aftermarket parts would a shooter want to put on a 700P, Jeff? I'm just asking because yours sounds pretty exceptional...

McMillian stocks... not sure if you can get one left handed though... might have to wait 6 months for one

 

[bocephus]

A buddy of mine has recently gotten into shooting and just bought a savage. Dont know if he shot it yet, but i have heard they are pretty accurate. that being said, i cannot vouch for their durability. they feel and look very very cheap. the action is tight, not smooth and the bolt sloppy. the barrel is very very thin. the stock to metal fit around the action is just shoddy. if it were me i would rather spend a couple extra hundred and get a 700 and be done with it. then you would have one of the most reliable actions in the world, and most importantly along with accuracy they just dont feel "cheap." If you wanted to end up building a custom sorta gun, you could probably just get a used 700 adl or bdl model and eventually start putting on your new stuff. I wouldnt be surprised if you could get a used ADL or BDL for the same price as a new savage. otherwise, the VS or P are pretty darn nice. and for 600-700$ you cant beat them in my opinion.

 

[acp8045]

Thanks for all the replies.....it seems that the cheapest that I can find the Remington 700 VS is anywhere between $800 and $850 at local gun stores. I was looking at Remingtons' 2005 catalog and noticed that a recoil pad is bieng added to its rifle line.......Is that worth the wait, or is it really not needed?

 

[JRP3]

http://www.sportingarms.com/results...descr=police&sale_only=ON&B1=Submit&page_no=1

I'm sure one of the gun stores around you will do a transfer, you just need to find out what they will charge. The money you will save with no taxes and it is alot cheaper than the stores in your area are charging you will definitely be worth it. The 700p model is usually a little more expensive than the 700VS if I remember correctly.

J

 

[acp8045]

Good looking out JRP3.....It looks like they got what I'm looking for at $659. I'm going to look into what I have to do....Never purchased a gun online before........Thanks

 

[acp8045]

On my way to a local pawn shop that holds an FFL to get a copy of their license in order to process the rifle purchase online.........seems simple enough. Thanks again JRP3. I'm saving myself a bundle. The money saved will go towards a scope.

ACP8045

 

[cody221]

dont forget pics

 

[Jeff_850]

good luck hope what you get is a shooter

 

[mele]

Excellent work guys! Way to help him out.

@acp8045:
If your local gun shops don't want to work with you for good pricing on the scope, let me know, I generally can get pretty good deals if you are willing to wait about a week for me to get the scope shipped out.

MEL

 

[JRP3]

Glad I could help, hopefully the gun store you deal with are easy about FFL transfers. Sometimes they can be touchy, but in general they do it happily. The main store I deal with is great, except when trying to buy used guns or from somewhere else. They will do it, but they charge about 80 bucks which is freakin highway robbery. You should be able to find a place that will do it for around 20 bucks.

J

 

[acp8045]

Thanks on the offer in regards to the scope MELE. I'll keep that in mind. I should have the rifle by the end of the month. When I get it, I'll make sure to post the pictures. Thanks again guys on the suggestions.

ACP8045

 

[Lycoming]

The trigger on my savage is the accu-trigger. Yeah, it breaks clean and crisp and is fully adjustable, savage even supplies the adjustment tool with the new rifle!! I did not have to change the trigger as it came from the factory @2.5lbs. The latest LE savage rifles come with standard stocks, choate stocks, and mc millian stocks. Savage has taken major strides in improving their quality. I feel that the only thing "cheap" is the price tag. Nothing is "shoddy" on my savage. Yes of course Remington actions are indeed world known. Most great sniper wepons are based on the excellent Rem. action. The legendary rem. model 700 speaks for its self. But, also Savage rifles are known for having the best out of the box accuaracy at a reasonable price, now with a great trigger and more stock options.

 

[AZRaptor]

I haven't shot a rifle since I was a teenager with my Glenfield Marlin .22LR (which I still own). I'm debating on the Rem 700P vs. Savage 10FP-LE as well, but I have a question on the stocks. Looking at the Standard, Choate and McMillan stocks I can see the physical difference, but is it just a matter of personal preference or aesthetics, or is there a functional difference between them?

 

[mele]

There is a functional difference as well. The standard savage stocks are lighter and much more flemsy. The Choate stock is a bit better, and McMillan is much better. The McMillan stocks are very durable and solid. The same cannot be said about the savage stocks. I'm not even sure you could glass bed a savage stock if you wanted... I would have to take one apart again to see. McMillan is far superior than the other two

MEL