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Hi im new to this site however im am not new to the remington 700 VTR. it sounds to me that you are having the same issue with your rifle that myself and many others had with theirs. I had exactly the same issue. It took me ages to work out what it was but i was certainly right about it. The problem is the stock. Andbas much as i love remington what the hell were they thinking. I changed the stock on my VTR with a spare remington 700 DBL stock i had and acheived instant sub MOA. and i bought some more stocks and fitted them to four friends VTR and found the same result. It is now one of the most accurate production rifles i have in my gun safe. Easiest fix in the world honestly
 

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I agree it's all helpful.

I had one a year ago but sold it. I had a gun smith put a Timmy and a new stock on it but I never got good groups with it. 2" maybe at 100.

A buddy who has used them for police stuff agrees that some shoot great and some shoot terrible. A few guys in his outfit had them years back and one guys was 1/2" while another guys was 3" groups using same ammo and shooter.

I'm not a gun smith and don't know as much as I wish I did about fire arms but I wished I had not ever bought mine. Would have rather put $$ into something I might still have and enjoy.
 

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I bought a vtr in 223 three years ago best i could do was to get it to shoot 2 inch groups at 100 yards. spend some time on it filed out the forward pressure point in the stock. Glass bedded the stock i have to give that another go but the action screws are good now and the receiver, the recoil lug bedding did not stay in place. I cut that load mussel brake off of it and shot a load built on mixed military brass federal 205 primers and 414 powder the bullet was a bulk remington 55 gr hollow points that i got 25 years ago. I did not worry to much about the ammo because the rifle did not shot worth a darn anyhow resting across the hood of the truck i shot a 11/16 of an inch group today seems like there might be hope for this one yet. The bullets were seated to touch the rifling. the next thing to try is going to be rebed the recoil lug, any ideas how to make bedding stick better to the plastic stock? and i am going to bed a steel rod in the for end to make that stiff. I think i will work up and try they same load with some 55 grain sierras and hornaday brass that should help a bunch.
 

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I bought a vtr in 223 three years ago best i could do was to get it to shoot 2 inch groups at 100 yards. spend some time on it filed out the forward pressure point in the stock. Glass bedded the stock i have to give that another go but the action screws are good now and the receiver, the recoil lug bedding did not stay in place. I cut that load mussel brake off of it and shot a load built on mixed military brass federal 205 primers and 414 powder the bullet was a bulk remington 55 gr hollow points that i got 25 years ago. I did not worry to much about the ammo because the rifle did not shot worth a darn anyhow resting across the hood of the truck i shot a 11/16 of an inch group today seems like there might be hope for this one yet. The bullets were seated to touch the rifling. the next thing to try is going to be rebed the recoil lug, any ideas how to make bedding stick better to the plastic stock? and i am going to bed a steel rod in the for end to make that stiff. I think i will work up and try they same load with some 55 grain sierras and hornaday brass that should help a bunch.
You would be time (and money) ahead to simply replace the stock with something like a Bell & Carlson or HS Precision for around $200-300, rather than try to strengthen up a Remington tupperware stock...
 

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I am wondering if a bunch of the poor groupings was the brake. the stock is junk as well but surprising how much better it is doing.
 

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Old thread,.....I just wanted to include that the VTR in .223 is a great out of the box
do it all type Rig..I found it prefers 55gr.1in9 twist rate.After a Timney Trigger
set @2.5 pounds.Polished action Bolt fluted and handle skeletonized.
A Harris Ultra Light Bipod. It shoots very well.Bottom line is I like it.

I remember when the Desert Eagle came out and all of the "Gay Looking Barrel Comments"
Triangular Barrels are cool looking despite the traditionalists views and comments.
 

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Old thread,.....I just wanted to include that the VTR in .223 is a great out of the box
do it all type Rig..
Your definition of "great" must be drastically different than mine. Also, you win my "necro-poster of the day" award.
 

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Dude,
I don't know what the problem is with your rifle, but I can make you a 2"x2" smiley face at 100yds with mine, factory trigger and all. You definitely need to have someone look at it. And btw, Remington is still making it.
 

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Dude,
I don't know what the problem is with your rifle, but I can make you a 2"x2" smiley face at 100yds with mine, factory trigger and all. You definitely need to have someone look at it. And btw, Remington is still making it.
Dude, this thread is 5-6 years old.

Also, just because you have a rifle that shoots doesn't mean they all do. This is one of the greater issues with the firearm community people get to attached to their rifles, or the things they buy, and then feel the need to defend those items, even if it means bringing up a thread long dead.
 

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Follow up necro here that has something I'm dying to say.

I recently read that you should not free float these barrels. The harmonics on them are basically insane and you should be trying to strap it in as tight as possible, not free floating it.

Regardless, YMMV.
 

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Follow up necro here that has something I'm dying to say.

I recently read that you should not free float these barrels. The harmonics on them are basically insane and you should be trying to strap it in as tight as possible, not free floating it.

Regardless, YMMV.
I recently read that barrels should be round so that harmonics are correct.
 

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Follow up necro here that has something I'm dying to say.

I recently read that you should not free float these barrels. The harmonics on them are basically insane and you should be trying to strap it in as tight as possible, not free floating it.

Regardless, YMMV.
You really do need to show us where you read it from. You must have misread it.

If indeed, someone really said so, stay away from the guy. He's trying to kill you.
 

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Being new to sniping, I wanted to have a light rifle and bought a 700 .308 VTR. The triangle barrel was different, so there I went. I attended a sniping course and could only shoot 2" inconsisent groups at 100 yards. Even a Marine Sniper Instructor could not shoot better. I am trying to sell this thing now. I spoke to a friend who attended the SHOT show and a Remington rep told him the rifle does not shoot, and they have stopped production. Any other comments or reviews would be appreciated before I unload, although probably futile, on Remington for producing this rifle.
Sounds like it shoots better then a weatherby S2 Sporter. Lol. I have one in .260 rem shoots about 1 moa at 100 yards. I don't believe mine is free floated? Thinking about free floating it though. I have only shot 120 grain Hornady bullets through so far, maybe I will try some 140's? Good luck I hope you get it driving tacks!
 

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I’m with @sila canuck and his recommendation of a Savage Model 10. I’ve shot a VTR in .308- I was asked to help sight it in for a friend’s daughter. It was her first deer rifle, and had the cool factor that she showed off to her friends. We had hell getting it to shoot under an inch at 100, but after a bunch of fine tuning we got it to shoot consistent 1/2 to 3/4” groups. My Savage Model 10 SP, on the other hand, has shot consistently 1/4” groups at 100 since the first day outta the box. The trigger on the 10 SP can be set as low as 1lb, and is probably the best trigger I’ve ever had on a rifle. It makes the triggers on all my other (much more expensive) rifles look and feel like crap! Hope everything works out for you, I know how frustrating this is. I went through a similar situation a few years ago with a Weatherby Mark V.
 

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Being new to sniping, I wanted to have a light rifle and bought a 700 .308 VTR. The triangle barrel was different, so there I went. I attended a sniping course and could only shoot 2" inconsisent groups at 100 yards. Even a Marine Sniper Instructor could not shoot better. I am trying to sell this thing now. I spoke to a friend who attended the SHOT show and a Remington rep told him the rifle does not shoot, and they have stopped production. Any other comments or reviews would be appreciated before I unload, although probably futile, on Remington for producing this rifle.
I find this odd.
Being new to sniping, I wanted to have a light rifle and bought a 700 .308 VTR. The triangle barrel was different, so there I went. I attended a sniping course and could only shoot 2" inconsisent groups at 100 yards. Even a Marine Sniper Instructor could not shoot better. I am trying to sell this thing now. I spoke to a friend who attended the SHOT show and a Remington rep told him the rifle does not shoot, and they have stopped production. Any other comments or reviews would be appreciated before I unload, although probably futile, on Remington for producing this rifle.
Im looking for one of these now, and save the high end rifles for the range. While your post is a few yrs old, im shocked. Everyone is sold out, but this gun has a 5 star rating on mult sites. Reviews talk of 1 moa out of the box.
That said, and to new readers, 308 is a great round, but not if your new trying to make 400yrd shots. The cal is more than capable, but not for someone new wo good optics and good understanding of bullet drop. Too many times ive seen guys spend $1000 on a rifle, then top it off with a cheap scope or red dot, and blame the gun.
Thats my opinion, and im.not a self professed expert as half seem to be online.
Too often these days ppl buy guns based on a "cool tactical look". The result, were now paying more for $8 plastic stocks, than hand rubbed premium walnut or mahogany. Call me old fashion, but i think youve lost your minds. No matter what they call it, its plastic. Hand laid carbon fiber does not come from a plastic injection molding machine. Even more sad, is mossy oak wallpaper over plastic.
To me its like Ford painting their new trucks in gray or black primer, calling it a new tactical anti reflective coating, and charging more. Who's the dumbass?
In addition, do your homework. Find sites and youtubers that back their opinions with actual facts and figures.
For starters, fig out what you want the rifle for, and there are many that cross mult platforms. Then research the ammo, to not only find what youll need, but how flat it shoots, how avail it is and the cost, then look at rifles in that cal.
Again, one big newbie mistake is buying large mag rifles, then finding they cant handle the recoil. In addition, almost any necked mag ammo greatly reduces barrel life. As a rule of thumb, the ave 223 to 30-06 barrel should last 8000 to 10,000 rounds. Magnums in that range are 1500-2000. Personally, my pockets arent deep enough to replace barrels at that rate. While mags are great for long range hunting, or casual target shooting with low fire rates, they will be chew up barrels quickly if your a range shooter.
Last but not least, and to all newbies. Your 22 you plan on plinking with at grandpas farm does not need to be "tactical" and look like it was borrowed off a starwars set. Seriously, do we really need to wonder why were scaring the crap out of non gun owners? You've got a gun and skills that may hit a squirrel, you dont need a laser range finder, 3 lights, a 14" scope, folding stock and hand grips. What you need is a life.
Its become so bad in NY, cops are getting called when ppl are even seen with an AR. Learn to shoot, forget the toys. Some of our militaries best snipers going back to wwll learned shooting tin cans and pie plates with old beat up 22s and lever action carbines.
Find a low recoil gun, and practice. One thing i will warn you of, many buyers will rate things high if they are inexpensive only. Youll find this with cheap guns, ammo and optics. A $45 ebay Acog scope, will have the same rating as the $1500 real deal. Why? It looks cool and tactical, looks like the real deal, works (kinda) and cost $45 bucks.
Practice! Half these guys talking sub moa online likely couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
Included my pic, of the suburban weekend warrior 22.
This is what happens when you've gone from vid games, to a real gun and listen to too many online yahoos. Again, do we really need to wonder why so many non gun owners are jumping on the antigun wagon?
Some of the best WWll snipers used rifles that were not close to our new out of the box, sub moa rifles, and they hit their mark. It boils down to skill, and that comes from practice.
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I find this odd.

Im looking for one of these now, and save the high end rifles for the range. While your post is a few yrs old, im shocked. Everyone is sold out, but this gun has a 5 star rating on mult sites. Reviews talk of 1 moa out of the box.
That said, and to new readers, 308 is a great round, but not if your new trying to make 400yrd shots. The cal is more than capable, but not for someone new wo good optics and good understanding of bullet drop. Too many times ive seen guys spend $1000 on a rifle, then top it off with a cheap scope or red dot, and blame the gun.
Thats my opinion, and im.not a self professed expert as half seem to be online.
Too often these days ppl buy guns based on a "cool tactical look". The result, were now paying more for $8 plastic stocks, than hand rubbed premium walnut or mahogany. Call me old fashion, but i think youve lost your minds. No matter what they call it, its plastic. Hand laid carbon fiber does not come from a plastic injection molding machine. Even more sad, is mossy oak wallpaper over plastic.
To me its like Ford painting their new trucks in gray or black primer, calling it a new tactical anti reflective coating, and charging more. Who's the dumbass?
In addition, do your homework. Find sites and youtubers that back their opinions with actual facts and figures.
For starters, fig out what you want the rifle for, and there are many that cross mult platforms. Then research the ammo, to not only find what youll need, but how flat it shoots, how avail it is and the cost, then look at rifles in that cal.
Again, one big newbie mistake is buying large mag rifles, then finding they cant handle the recoil. In addition, almost any necked mag ammo greatly reduces barrel life. As a rule of thumb, the ave 223 to 30-06 barrel should last 8000 to 10,000 rounds. Magnums in that range are 1500-2000. Personally, my pockets arent deep enough to replace barrels at that rate. While mags are great for long range hunting, or casual target shooting with low fire rates, they will be chew up barrels quickly if your a range shooter.
Last but not least, and to all newbies. Your 22 you plan on plinking with at grandpas farm does not need to be "tactical" and look like it was borrowed off a starwars set. Seriously, do we really need to wonder why were scaring the crap out of non gun owners? You've got a gun and skills that may hit a squirrel, you dont need a laser range finder, 3 lights, a 14" scope, folding stock and hand grips. What you need is a life.
Its become so bad in NY, cops are getting called when ppl are even seen with an AR. Learn to shoot, forget the toys. Some of our militaries best snipers going back to wwll learned shooting tin cans and pie plates with old beat up 22s and lever action carbines.
Find a low recoil gun, and practice. One thing i will warn you of, many buyers will rate things high if they are inexpensive only. Youll find this with cheap guns, ammo and optics. A $45 ebay Acog scope, will have the same rating as the $1500 real deal. Why? It looks cool and tactical, looks like the real deal, works (kinda) and cost $45 bucks.
Practice! Half these guys talking sub moa online likely couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
Included my pic, of the suburban weekend warrior 22.
This is what happens when you've gone from vid games, to a real gun and listen to too many online yahoos. Again, do we really need to wonder why so many non gun owners are jumping on the antigun wagon?
Some of the best WWll snipers used rifles that were not close to our new out of the box, sub moa rifles, and they hit their mark. It boils down to skill, and that comes from practice. View attachment 29005
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Welcome to the site.

Your opinions are noted.

Good luck with your new LTR. Maybe it will shoot like the 5 star reviews say it will.
 
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