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Here in the U.S these rifles are very elusive to find and even when you, it costs about as much as a new car. I've had the privilige to hold these but never fire them, and I was wondering what these fine pieces of German engineering shoot like and what their advatages and faults might be?
 

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im not sure they'd give mel one for a review
the PSG-1 is supposedly the most accurate semi-auto there is but ill have to see that for myself to believe it
also supposedly one of the most reilable which i can believe
i dont have anything against it really besides the price
is the PSG-1 worth $10,000??? i wouldnt pay that!!!
 

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The MSG-90 is basically a little bit worked up G3SG1, and at some point the USMC was taking a look at it to pull DM service with their 0311 platoons.

The PSG-1 is overpriced but is apparently a very accurate semiautomatic.
 

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The psg1 does shoot very well, but it is very heavy. I have had the privilige of shooting one. I did not get to test it the way I wanted to, but I was impressed none the less. As for the price, I don't understand why on earth it is that much except that it says HK. If you want a amazing rifle buy a sigr93blaser in 338lapua. It is crazy accurate, and the only down fall is the price of ammo. The ssg3000 is nice also, along with the FN shorty.
 

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Why So Much?
by John Metzger
A bunch of the boys were wooping it up in room 313 at the Sahara Hotel. SOF's Fourth Annual Convention was just starting to brew downstairs in the Casino. John Satterwhite was pulling something out of a gun case on the coffee table.
"Like to see the new HK sniper rifle?" he asked. Sure we did. Everyone in the room liked guns. All eyes turned to the large black case on the table. Satterwhite pulled it out. A hush fell across the room. Even the drunkest among us caught himself in mid-stutter and shut up. The convention staff-types, range officers and match shooters filling the room slowly staggered toward this amazing-looking weapon, now propped up on its tripod on the glass table. Everyone picked it up, held it, dry fired it, stared at it and inevitably asked, "how much?"

Satterwhite answered, "Five thousand dollars."

He wasn't kidding. Everyone looked sort of disappointed.

When Satterwhite sent in this story, Brown left a cryptic note scribbled in the margin: "Why does this gun cost so fucking much?" Indeed. Why five thousand dollars? The question ate at me. But about four months later at the S.H.O.T. Show in Dallas I finally got a straight answer right from the H&K people themselves.

"Hey, guys. Why the high price?" I asked the reps at the booth.

"Because it's an HK."

"Ha, ha. No, really?"

Well, they really didn't have an answer.

"It will shoot under one minute of angle out of the box," the reps continued. "The scope alone is worth between $1,200 and $1,500. We gurarantee that the gun will at least equal all manufacturers' accuracy claims." (It is typical of European ammunition manufacturers to market ammo with specific accuracy claims.) Do those answers justify the price?

Five-thousand dollars is a lot of money. But the PSG 1 is a lot of gun. My conclusion? If you are not interested in owning one of the most accurate semiauto .308 sniper rifles in the world, don't buy it.

taken from www.remtek.com/arms
 

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Max you said that you saw it at a shot show, are you going to the one in vegas this year? I might go with my company if the boss permits. You should of bought the psg1 when it was 5000$. I am buying a sniper rifle from every company and that one will be the last one I aim for.
 

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no no no its an excerpt... i got it at a website
btw im only 15 so i wouldnt have been alive when the rifle was worth $5000
 

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jesus max, I thought you might of been in the same type of business as me. Do you have any sniper rifles yet?
 

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Thx for all the replies my friends. Sweet Jesus, I didnt even know that it was ever less that 10 to 13 grand. LOL anyways, all the opinions I read are quite true. It is a lot of gun for a lot of money. I will look into that Sig and the others mentioned. Are there any other semi-auto sniper rifles I should look for?
 

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M1As and SR-25s are great, other AR-10s
all capalbe of awesome accuracy, aspecially the AR-10s, the SR-25 being one of the finest AR-10s there are
Super Match is my favorite of the M1A series... thre VERY accurate with their heavy barrels
 

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The springfield m1a hathcock model is supposed to come with a .25 moa guarantee. Its also quite a bit less expensive that the model your looking at. Stoner make an AR-15 based system that suppossedly damn near shoots itself. Also you'll look around the board and find a member named, HD Rifles. He makes an AR-10 that is really worth giving a look. Now if i could only find an AR-10 in 260 rem, id be doing great!...lol
 

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M25 White Feather model comes with a 1/2 moa guarnetee, M1A Super Match has a 1 MOA gaurentee, the M1A super match is almost $1000 less i think and uses a differnt stock which i particularly like... $3400 for the M1A Super match and $4500 i think for the M25 White Feather
can you fit a .260 Rem into an AR-10 action? or is it too long?
id reccomend you ask HD Rifles if he can give you any info on his kickass AR-10 didnt think of that till spade mentioned it
 

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Take this advice for what it is worth, take the ar10 and throw the lower reciever in the garbage. Trust me. it is known for cracking around the trigger group, and mag well. Take a dpms 308 lower and put it next to the armalite. The difference is outstanding.
 

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Take this advice for what it is worth, take the ar10 and throw the lower reciever in the garbage. Trust me. it is known for cracking around the trigger group, and mag well. Take a dpms 308 lower and put it next to the armalite. The difference is outstanding.
why not just buy a DPMS Panther then? save yourself the money or buy the AR-10 lower seperately
they use differnt mags and im not sure if you can use the DPMS lower on an ArmaLite upper have you done this?
 

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I wouldn't have a ar10 for anything all I am saying is that the lower is junk and the upper is fine. I would buy a dpms and actually I have one at work with my name on it
 

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Jeff I work for a company called kiesler police supply. We have a retail store were we sell everygun you can think of. We have a wholesale region, and a government,police, military region. I am one of the master ar15 armorers there and the sniperrifle guru I guess you could say. We also have class three weapons. It's nice carrying a gun to work all day, and playing with all the new stuff and having stuff donated for us to see what it can do.
 

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If you want to get a feel for where I work, look up kiesler police supply on your search, we have one site for goverment sales and another for fire power tv
 
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