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I can't spend much on a scope right now, unfortunately. I just got a Rem 700 VS in .308.

I was thinking of the Bushnell Elite 3200 10x40 mildot. After doing some reading, I understand that 10x should be sufficient. I am mostly interested in 500-600 yard range in shooting and for deer hunting. I was looking at a 10x as from reading I have gathered that with variable power scopes that it can be difficult to maintain your zero, at least with lower end scopes.
http://www.bushnell.com/products/rifles ... scopes.cfm
As far as variable powers go I was looking at the Bushnell Elite 3200 3x9x40 or their Legend series or Banner series 6-18x50. I am hoping this would be a better way to go than Simmons or Tasco. Though, I was considering a Tasco 6-24x42 mildot.

I would seriously appreciate any opinions on these or other scopes. Thanks.
 

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check out nikons UCC scopes--great for hunting


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for hunting and long range you would need a veritable, 10 power at 100 yards can be a pain, all though you expect 500-600 yard shots, Murphy says 100-200 will happen, how much can you afford?
the new Burris tactical 3-12x50 Xtreme Tactical XTR 30mm Rifle Scope is $500.00-700.00



Sightron SII SS 4.5-14x44 Scope $300-450.00
Sightron is actually a pretty good scope! for low price, you can get some for $170.00 and up SI and SII series

Nikons are good too.

but I think I would stay away from a High Magnification fixed power (for huntig)
 

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Now if you are set on a fixed power, I use a 6x40 Nimrod with the ranging retical and 308 M118 BDC for my 308 hunting rifle.
you can get a used one from a guy in Isreal for 200.00 + and a excellent condition one for 400.00 or so, I have about 4 of them; super glass.



Here is the guy who sells them, e-mail him and ask for a used one in good condition you may get a discount..
http://scopetica.com/catalog/default.php?cPath=21

Used scope in poor condition, picture below, but glass and operation is great, only the outside is messy and will be covered in paint anyway.


FYI: the retical photo was shot through a dirty window
 

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Unfortunately, only around $200 to spend at the moment, getting a new house so limited a bit.
 

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take a look at Sightrons..I have 3 and all track very well, I have put them to the Box test and glass is pretty darn good for the price

It will be hard to find a veritable scope at that price with good glass. but for fixed your original scope the burris was good.

Some guys at Savage shooters are using the Meuller scope and like them for the price, I have never used it myself.

Eraticator 8.5-25x50, Fine-X Illum. Dot, Matte

http://theopticzone.com/detail.aspx?ID=2315

here is a review I found here:
http://www.snipercentral.com/muellertac.htm
 

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you mean the Nimrod scope?

it works well, range a human size target from groin to head and fit between the lines and find the range in meters

here is a better pitcure I got from his web site.

the BDC only goes to 800 Meters, the 2 stadia lines in the retical below center are for hold over at 900 and 1000 meters
 

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I'm interested in the Mueller's. What you your recommendation be, the 4-16x50 Tactical Illuminated Mildot or the Eraticator 8.5-25x50 with the Illuminated Red dot?

Recommendations on rings and bases? A sight to check? I am assuming high rings for a 50mm objective? Thanks.
 

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The sightron SII's are good, the SI's I found to have pretty poor quality of lenses.

For that budget, look at burris 3-9x40mm, very good scope for sub $200.

I may have to try one of those nimrods. I've seen and heard about them, but have never used one....

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Sorry so long of a response but I am 13 Hours ahead of you guy’s, stationed in korea.

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If you are going to get into long range shooting I would go with the 4-16x50 Tactical Illuminated Mildot
Learn how to use them for ranging, hold over/under and tracking/trapping for leads.
4-16x50 Tactical Illuminated Mildot



mele

I have them mounted on 308 rifles, and the BDC is dead on at 1000 ft, 59 degrees and M118 ammo LC, but I have used the BDC out to 600 meters with 168 grain BH ammo and dead on as well., the Glass is par to my Nightforce, maybe better.
 

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Okay, done some looking and pricing and given price constraints, which would you all go with:

Nikon Buckmaster: 3-9X40 for $150
Nikon Buckmaster:4.5-14x40 for $240
Nikon Pro Staff: 3-9x40 for $160
Leupold Rifleman: 3-9x40 wide duplex for $210
Leupold VXI: 3-9x40 for $210
Bushnell Elite 3200: 3-9x40 for $170
Burris Fullfield II: 3-9x40 Ballistic Plex for $210
Mueller Tactical Ill. Mildot: 4-16x50 for $190
Weaver: 3-9x50 duplex for $210
Sightron S1: 3.5-10x50 for $210
2.5-10x44 for $185
3-9x40 Mildot for $130
Sightron S2: 3-9x42 for $230
Redfield: 3-12x44 for $166
3-9x50 for $176

I am really leaning towards the Mueller Tactical, but would love your esteemed opinions. Thanks.
 

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It is a hard choice for the price range on a
(Hunting/target Scope)

if it were just target I give you a 100 percent on a Super Sniper



I have a Nikon, at home and it is a decent scope, but lacks the correct MOA adjustments to get me out to 1000 meters

I have a Burris FFII scope with ballistic plex and it works very well out to 500 yards but that is all I have shot it too, on a .270

I have SII Sightrons and they are very good but more money than you have to spend

Never tried the Mueller but heard good things about them for the price,

Lets try to make this simple.
Do you have Rings and a Scope Base?

If not look at the money to get quality rings and base, and add that all up and I think going with the Cheaper decent Mueller may bay the way to go.
Don’t go cheap on the Rings, a good scope and cheap rings will be worthless.

Check ebay also and look for a good deal on a Sightron SII,

If you are going to be shooting out to 6-700 yards you must have one of 2 things:

1. A retical that has stadia lines or a mil dot for hold over
2. Target style turrets or BDC to dial in MOA for longer ranges.

if using Turrets:Find a drop chart for 308 and match the MOA Adjustments to the different scopes to make sure they will reach your desired maximum range that you may ever shoot.


also look here for reviews on scopes
http://www.snipercentral.com/miscreviews.htm

http://www.savageshooters.com/Reviews/Mueller_Eraticator.html

http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/Bushnell_Tactical10x40.asp

http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/Sightron_SII.asp

http://www.snipercountry.com/InReviews/TascoSS_Rebirth.asp

all said and done, if it were me I would save until I could get a better scope, but also if you are like me and do not like to wait for things and want to get shooting...

I would get good rings, base and the Mueller.

you have 60 MOA od elevation and a Mildot retical that should get you out to 700 yards easy.

after some time you can upgrade and re-sale the mueller...if needed.
PS: reguardless of the scope you can get a lemon, so always, do a Box test once mounted if the scope does not hold; then send it back for another, do not give up on a brand until you have tried at least 2 scopes
 

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I bought the Mueller 4-16x50 mildot and got the sunshade as well.

Now, what rings and bases? I cannot afford the Leupold Mks. What about the Leupold QRW/PRW rings and bases?
 

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I just mounted a set of leupold PRW rings on a warne 20 MOA base (this is the standard setup on the SC2) with a burris 50mm objective. You will need highs. I like the PRW rings, they are a very nice and plenty rugged ring. I do not like that you have to "snap" them over the tube, it may mar the finish on the scope. But besides that, I recommend the rings.

The Mueller will serve you well and it gives you a good 60 MOA of adjustment. This will be enough to get you to 1000 if you use it in conjunction with a 20 MOA base. Else you will be relegated to 800y.

MEL
 
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