[westpointranger]

I've heard conflicting reports concerning Sig Saur pistols. On one end I hear that they're some of the best in the world being extremely reliable and accurate. On the other end I hear that they're unreliable and not worth taking the risk having one fail. I'm not sure which one to believe since so many elite military forces (including Israeli Sayaret and Mossad) use them extensively (and somethimes exclusively).

Can somebody set me straight on this?

 

[K2]

I've always had good experiences with SIGs. I just bought a SIG GSR 1911-style .45 that I am giving a work-out. So far it has worked flawlessly and accuracy is on par with my Springfield TRPs (which is saying a LOT). I only have about 800 rounds through it so far, but its looking pretty much like a keeper. I haven't seen much wrong with SIG P220/226/245 family that couldn't be traced back to faulty ammo or banged-up magazine lips. Both of these I catagorize as operator error since both can be prevented by excersizing proper care.

K2

 

[Scatch Maroo]

The worst I heard about SIGs was that they crapped out after 10,000 rounds or so of p+ ammunition--but the report was a comparison by the Swedes of SIG vs. Glock, and the article was posted on a Glock forum, so one might be a touch biased...

Other than that, I've never heard of SIGs having a reliability issue.

Scatch Maroo

 

[Jeff_850]

The worst I heard about SIGs was that they crapped out after 10,000 rounds or so of p+ ammunition--but the report was a comparison by the Swedes of SIG vs. Glock, and the article was posted on a Glock forum, so one might be a touch biased...

Other than that, I've never heard of SIGs having a reliability issue.

Scatch Maroo

herd of this happening at 7000 to 8000 rounds
USP series lasts 30,000-40,000 rounds and then probably given some minor maintence it can last even longer

 

[FLEA]

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Never had any problem with SIGs but there are just not for me.

 

[AK]

I fired a SIG and a Makarov PM on the same day at the range. The SIG, I cannot remember the type, but it was either a P-226 or -228.

The Makarov did not perform as well as the SIG, but the SIG did give me some cycling problems, the round would not come out of the magazine as well. That was a magazine issue. After swapping out the mags, the SIG performed as reliably as the Makarov (Although the Makarov did not provide the accuracy that the SIG did). I put fifty rounds through each, and only had the stoppage issue (Likely magazine related, or the sidearm decided to function properly after swapping mags) on the SIG.

Sorry I can't tell you much more about them. I don't get paid to shoot them, unfortunately.

 

[Jeff_850]

one requirement i'd have for a sidearm is that it WONT JAM PERIOD
or if it does jam that i can understnad fully it wasnt the gun's fault
ie a defective round that cant fit in the chamber- ive seen it before...
a bad magazine or a new one with stiff springs
if you can just run more rounds though it and see if its reliable before you actually use it

 

[AK]

You only need to click the "Post Reply" button once Jeff. :wink:

But yes, the deformed round thing seems to be quite common now, at least in this part of Canada.

 

[Jeff_850]

double post

the sight went down when i clicked send
it happens sometimes


anyways back on subject
herd a lot of things about the Sig being sensative to dust and that its reliabilty is in question
i however have never herd anyone attack it's accuracy and believe its one of the more accurate pistols

 

[AK]

The SIG might be sensitive (not a clue) but it is definately very accurate.

 

[Yimmy]

re

If you can get a sig210, they are supposed to be great guns.

 

[Kamatz]

The 210 Neuhausen is a competition gun tailored for competition shooting only. Older 210s are a tad fragile and wont live long with modern military ammo.

Nah, go for a Sphinx 3000 Tactical - I am.

 

[spade]

OR you could just buy a kimber and forget it. lol

 

[Yimmy]

The 210 Neuhausen is a competition gun tailored for competition shooting only.

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Bollocks it is. The Sig 210 was an issue pistol for the Swiss(?) armed forces.

 

[Kamatz]

Yeah...was. That's why I said older 210s are too fragile for modern miliary ammo - and that includes +P civi ammo. They wont live all that long with standard loads, either.

They're damned good for accuracy, though...

 

[westpointranger]

herd a lot of things about the Sig being sensative to dust and that its reliabilty is in question

I can't see that being so as much as Israel uses them.

 

[Yimmy]

re

I believe Israel has got rid of them in favour of glocks.

 

[westpointranger]

http://www.isayeret.com/weapons/handguns/sig/sig.htm

Ya, I guess you're right. It's odd that I didn't see this before.

 

[USAlx50]

I have a friend who is a SEAL sniper and says that they use Sigs as their sidearms..

 

[Jeff_850]

thought the seals use the H&K Mk23 though i hear they hate it for being too big