[We7det_el_qetal_ra3d]

I propose to lengthen a .45 ACP case to 28mm neck it down to a 7mm spitzer bullet thus creating a 7x28 pistol cartridge.

how do u think this round would fare if it was created.

 

[spade]

i was under the impression that the reason they stopped using bottleneck pistol cartridges was due to issues with feeding and cycling properly.

Might work well, but i wouldnt own it.

 

[Scatch Maroo]

i was under the impression that the reason they stopped using bottleneck pistol cartridges was due to issues with feeding and cycling properly.

Might work well, but i wouldnt own it.

357 SIG is bottle-necked, isn't it? I don't know much at all 'bout bullets and such, but the top has a bottle neck... *shrugs*

Scatch Maroo

 

[Jeff_850]

why not just redesign a new cartridge
bottlenecking cartridges... heard too much about it failing to cycle pistol rounds

 

[AK]

Bottlenecked pistol rounds don't cycle well, last I heard.

Now if I could get a DA revolver chambered in this with a six or eight inch barrel, I'd be interested. Don't feel like clearing a lot of stoppages out on the firing line with a semi-auto.

 

[muzzleblast]

I think I'll just get a 45acp one day and not muck with it

I'd be willing to give 7.62mm Tokarev a try though. Would make a nice plinker and its quite proven.

 

[AK]

Seven sixty-two "Tok" is a good round for a decent handgun.

 

[muzzleblast]

Cheap ammo, cheap pistol, I like the economics and reliability but rather anemic. Unless its in a burp gun. Never fired it, but I've never heard gripes about it or the mauser round not feeding well.

 

[We7det_el_qetal_ra3d]

The issue guys is not economy, i'm talking about penetration power and stopping power, and u can chamber it in a desert eagle to ensure no blockage.

 

[spade]

and then i know id never buy one. My general rule is that i never try and tweak a cartridge unless it serves a purpose. i just cant see what purpose this serves. And i absolutely hate the desert eagle. IMHO gang bangers are the only thing keeping IA in buisness.

 

[Jeff_850]

why not make a new cartridge if a new purpose needs to be served
whole idea i never saw much of a use for period
i dont hate the desert eagle, ive fired one
i just hate the people from the hood who go to the range and shoot it jump up and down and pass it to another punk to shoot and they all think there badasses when all they are doing is renting a desert eagle and sucking at shooting
ive seen a few who went to the range, shot it by themselves or let thier friends try it but were more safe with it and i dont have a problem with more mature people firing it

 

[We7det_el_qetal_ra3d]

All firearms are to be treated with the respect that they deserve, otherwise somebody is really in for a bad day, i totally agree with Jeff.

 

[We7det_el_qetal_ra3d]

let's put things a bit clear here ( sorry my fault )

Which do u think has greater penetration and stopping power

FN 5.7x28 or my proposed 7x28 using a new cartridge designed around the .45 ACP having the same case diameter but a length of 28mm and a 7mm spitzer bullet.

 

[muzzleblast]

How much would a longer and wider 7mm bullet cut into the powder capacity of the casing, and if it doesn't, what would the OAL be? those are the two things I'm curious about.

 

[We7det_el_qetal_ra3d]

.224 BOZ could give us an idea about the proposed cartridge

 

[muzzleblast]

That looks better than the FN round to me. I've seen what a group called "Smoking Hole" has done with it, 1911's, MP5's etc. All very cool.

What does BOZ mean though?

 

[We7det_el_qetal_ra3d]

That still beats me , i can't still figure a useful meaning for it

 

[genen]

.357 sig

I have a Glock 22 with a custom match barrel in .357sig - shoots great, never jams, I got a 1.5in group at 25 yards with it the other day with iron sights... how many people who 'heard they jam' actually shoot a .357sig?

 

[spade]

the cartridges i was refering to we're old school bottle necks... like WWI bottle neck cartridges. I cant say as i have shot a 357 sig but my cousin keeps reccomending it.

 

[Scatch Maroo]

Re: .357 sig

I have a Glock 22 with a custom match barrel in .357sig - shoots great, never jams, I got a 1.5in group at 25 yards with it the other day with iron sights... how many people who 'heard they jam' actually shoot a .357sig?

All bottl-neck rounds jam all of the time (even .357 SIG)... unless you're using a GLOCK! :twisted:

Scatch Maroo