[mele]

If you could chose only one of these two scopes to take (free of charge, to take the money object out of it) which would it be?
View the two scopes here

3-12x42 AO, Target Knobs & Duplex reticule
http://www.sightron.com/index.php?action=view_category&cat_id=1047414661
3-12x42 no AO, no Target Knobs & mil-dots
http://www.sightron.com/index.php?action=view_category&cat_id=1047415599

Okay, the reason of this poll is to gauge the value of mil-dots vs. AO and Target knobs. How many of you really care that it has mil-dots? How many care that the scope has target knobs?

thanks

MEL

 

[Stump]

if i knew how to use the mil dots correctly i would choose them over the duplex ie. size of target= distance or something like that(ive slept since then)
im not a sniper or even a sharp shooter but i could probably hang with the best of them on a 100 yd range and have embarrased several of my lacal law enforcement sharpshooters already(how did they get that position anyways) well enough chat for now

 

[spade]

For the type of shooting that I preform, I would prefer the AO and target knobs. I, however, generally engage at less than 300m and do not need 60MOA of adjustment.

 

[JRP3]

I called Sightron to ask if there was any way to get a scope from them with MilDot and target knobs. Unfortunately the person I needed to talk to was too busy and hasn't had the time to call me back. However, he was too busy because they are getting their 2005 catalog out the door. I wouldn't count on it, but it is possible they might have something in their 2005 line-up that would suit what you are looking for a tad better.

J

 

[mele]

Thanks for checking into it. I sent them an email stating my desires a while back, never heard from them.

If they would simply base their MilDot 3-12x on their 3-12x with the target knobs and AO (vs the Non AO non Knob model they did use), it would be a PERFECT match for what I'm looking for.

MEL

 

[caver101]

I would go with the target knobs and duplex rec. every time. I always carry a laser rangefinder in open country. Besides I am not that keen on the use of the mill dot system, if I was my decision might be different.

 

[mele]

So far, so good. About what I expected.....

MEL

 

[boisedarc]

Mele,

Or anyone else who may know. I once read an article on the sightron mil-dot scopes, it stated that the sightron mildots were not standard mil dots, it said that sightron had tried to improve the mildot system. I have always liked the sightron optics, but never gave one a try due to this fact. Can anybody shed some light on this? Is this still true on sightrons latest scopes?

 

[mele]

Interesting question, I'll try to explain:

Well, there are two standard mil-dot reticules, the USMC and the US Army. The USMC uses a 3/4 mildot and the US Army uses a smaller dot thats only .2 mil diameter (leaving .8 between the start and stop of each dot). Burris uses the USMC, and Leupold uses the US Army, etc etc. Now, as more and more scope manufactures use mil-dots, some of developed their own reticles. Take, for example, Nikon, who uses little ticks at the half mil-dot. That makes this a "non standard" mil-dot reticule because its not what the USMC or US Army uses. BUT, a mil-dot HAS to be a one mil center to center, or it ISN"T a mil-dot measurement. Looking at the sightron mil-dots, I see that it appears to be a slightly larger dot than the US Army, but the measurements should indeed still be 1 mil center to center of the dots. So, you cannot exactly use your handy methods learned at the us army sniper school to measure the size of your target in mils.... but you obviously can learn other ones. BUT, the only problem is measuring your target, because all the other figuring of distance using your mil measurement will be the same.

Hope I didn't confuse more....

MEL

 

[boisedarc]

Thanks for the explanation Mele. This was something I had been curious about for quite awhile, I am really considering giving a sightron a try, they seem to have very nice optics for the price. Once again thanks.

 

[mele]

No problem... it was my pleasure!

I like the SII's, but the SI's I would avoid, their optical quality seems to be pretty poor compared to others in the SI price range.

MEL