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Thanks guys, looking forward to installing and using the brake. Seems like a no-brainer, but I know that picking the brain of someone that has actually performed the installation can glean info to help avoid any unseen hurdles.
 

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Got a few that look like that too but not in the cards for this rifle.

Considering the trend toward Chassis rifles with some rather different looks, I think an "ugly" muzzle brake fits right in. Maybe not on a classic rifle with an exotic wood grained stock, bluing that looks like it's 3" deep, jeweled bolt, and fancy inlays, engraving, escutcheon's, etc. For a "working rifle", looks are secondary to me.


When I looked at a chart of the best performing muzzle brakes not long ago, if I recall correctly some of the best performing ones certainly wouldn't win any beauty contests.
 

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apologies to those who may have been offended with the "ugly" remark.

I have no plans on taking it off the 308. When concentrating on the shot, I'm only interested in function and follow through. It does the job.

And Deadshot's right, the R700 is in a AICS chassis, so it doesn't look out of place.

ah... I ...kind'a like "fugly" better.... OK OK ;-)
 

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Has any one tried their MRE brake yet? Im realy liking the look of that one but function trumps form every time.
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I've got a Witt brake. It was the best choice for me because I didn't want to invest over$100 in threading a barrel I'd ultimately replace. Plus I haven't found a smith I trust here in Sou Fla. My experience coincides with what was mentioned previously, I had a minor change to 1:00 in POI at 100 yds. Minor adjustment in zero and I was good to go out to 1000yds.

Bottom line at time in the front end of an unthreaded barrel, I'd do it again. Next barrel I get will be threaded to take a can that threads on to a muzzle brake.

One thing to note is that Witt clamp ons are built to spec so their usefulness on other barrels my be limited.
 

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Has anyone had any experience with the Witt Machine bolt-on muzzle breaks? I am looking at them and they seem to be a very well built unit for a very good price. This would be for my Howa 1500 Varmint in .308. Any input would be great.

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Witt Machine Clamp on muzzle brake adapter experience: SCRAP, TERRIBLE CR!

I am as selective as anyone else regarding the companies I decide to do business with, and although I have read the bad reviews, after reading a bit about the Witt Machine history, I developed enough respect and confidence to make my decision and hoped that it won't happen to me.
Anyways, I received the parts I ordered in about 2 weeks. The muzzle brake looked fine but the muzzle clamp adapter came in with a surprising concentricity error between the threads and the hole of about 11.5 mils. Considering the questionable barrel alignment added by the clamp section and the resulting muzzle break tilt, the total error is very likely to lead to a bullet hit before leaving the assembly.

After attempting to install the muzzle clamp adapter on the rifle so I can measure the assy compounding concentricity error, to my surprise it did not fit onto the rifle barrel either. Even after reversing the clamping screws as instructed to open the clamp as much as possible and forced it in with a plastic mallet, the barrel stopped about half inch from bottoming out into the clamp adapter. The screw heads also rub into their seats stripping away the ceramic coating.
Before returning the product and add to the bad reviews I found on the exact same issue, I decided to further analyze these 2 issues and give Witt Machine a fair chance to fix them. I found that the barrel fit issue was a result of a fundamentally wrong way to measure the rifle barrel end section as instructed, which is not only insufficient to describe the true muzzle shape/geometry, but actually detrimental. Although not obvious to the naked eye, the end of the barrel on my Remington 700, and I suppose other rifles owned by so many of the people that report with similar complaints on being unable to fit these clamp-on adapters, is not exactly conical to only require 2 measurements (at muzzle end and 1.625" deep), but it is actually rounded off towards the end, creating a curved outline. That would require at least 3-4 measurements along the 1.625” barrel end section in order to properly describe the true muzzle shape.
So I decided to put in a few hours and made a detailed 3D CAD drawing to help us all solve this issue which I suspect is fairly common in barrel manufacturing, and hopefully improve their website measurement instructions to avoid encountering future issues for the benefit of their customers, but their company as well.
I emailed the drawing with my comments for review and asked for feedback and their input on solving this issue, but no reply. I pinged them again asking how they want to solve this issue after another week, but again -no answer. After 2 additional weeks -still no reply, so I decided to call the company and talked with a CR lady who didn't seem to be neither sympathetic towards the issue, nor interested in allowing me to have a constructive discussion with a technical person to whom I could present my analysis concluding that the WittMachine measurement method and instructions on their website lacks the necessary detail and leads to inaccurate characterization of certain kinds of barrel muzzle geometries. BTW, she said that they read and respond to all their emails. Right…
In spite of my insistent but polite efforts to make her understand that the improvements I am suggesting to their measurement method would correct the issues complained by so many customers in the bad reviews I have seen (which BTW I was cut off by her saying that it isn't true, but it's ok, I believe the countless online reviews and comments), minimize product returns and ultimately -not only significantly benefit us as customers, but the WittMachine company as well, the CR expressed no interest whatsoever. More than that, as she seemed to run out of patience, she told me to ship the part back (at my expense) for a refund, after which the call was cut short with a quick thank you then she hung up before I could even respond with a customary greeting.
Obviously, I can't tell if this level of rare disinterest for constructive dialog with a customer who is willing and even inviting to do just that is a general company lack of regard, or if it comes from this employee's single ended decision or lack of interest in personal involvement -fact about which the company might not even be aware of, the bottom line is that I am very disappointed with the experience and I will never order from this company again, nor I advise anyone to do that.
Given the experience, I am not even going to send the part in for refund because at this point I am not sure how this could end. I own a lathe and decided to take a stab at fixing this myself rather than pay return shipping and continue to deal with this company any further.
 

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Well my experience was positive in terms of installation and functionality. I have no dog in the race. But my 700 decreased muzzle jump and felt recoil. I installed it using loctite blue. mine worked fine. I didn’t mike the product but I hit 1k with what I got. Not sure what happened in your case but mine worked..
 

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I'm glad it worked out for you. Besides the difference in dimensions that come with the different calibers (mine is a 300 win mag) it's very possible that not all Remington 700s have the same geometry at the muzzle, and it is that little bit of rounded muzzle tip that is rendering the measurement method instructed my Witt Machine to be useless for this particular case:
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I'm glad it worked out for you. Besides the difference in dimensions that come with the different calibers (mine is a 300 win mag) it's very possible that not all Remington 700s have the same geometry at the muzzle, and it is that little bit of rounded muzzle tip that is rendering the measurement method instructed my Witt Machine to be useless for this particular case: View attachment 28968
Mine was mounted on a 700P in .308 and If I recall correctly there were 4 hex screws and blue Loctite holding that rascal on. Unfortunately that 308 is now a 6.5CM so that barrel is gone otherwise I would have miked it for the sake of this discussion. I'm a little embarrassed to say that I didn't mike the thing when I first got it although I did do some testing that a bullet exiting the brake would not make contact. All my brakes now are threaded.
 

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That last 1/4" will make no difference as you measure back farther and if you did it right the brake will hold. It does not render anything useless.
 
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