Actually there are more scopes now with .1 mil clicks than before. It makes it easier to get the knobs and reticle in the graduations which is a good thing to have.

Picking the reticle you want whether it be mil or MOA is up to what the user likes to use. Both can be used equally well by a trained shooter. No real advantage between a mil or MOA reticle but a majority of people I know use mil so if you were shooting with people with mil reticles and you had an MOA reticle then it would be tougher for them to call corrections for you. Also there aren't as many scopes with MOA based reticles as mil based.

I personally like a reticle with 1/2 mil marks as it makes it easier to break the mil down for holds or ranging. I also like hash marks but a combination like the Premier Gen II works well also.

Pick the reticle that you like, get the scope with the same graduations in the knobs and reticle and then go and shoot the rifle and learn how to use it.

 

So if using a Mil Dot or the Tactical Mill Reticle from lets say Leupold, you would want to ensure the target knobs are in Mills rather than MOA?

Just seems that a lot of the scopes I am finding are setup with a Mil style reticle and 1/4MOA adustments.

 

There are alot of scopes that have 1/4 MOA clicks and mildot reticles but that is a by product of years of it being done that way when .1 mil clicks weren't available. More and more scope makers are seeing that the shooters are wanting matching knobs and reticles and they are making scopes that way. ll the high end makers do it and even cheaper priced scopes like, Super Snipers, Falcon and Vortex are doing it with others following suit. You just need to look around for them.

Having matching knobs and reticle makes it so that you only need one set of data for both holds and dialing. Also when you see the impact in the scope you can dial on the correction as well as hold it. It's just more versitile to have matching knobs and reticle.

What's your price range for a scope?

 

There are alot of scopes that have 1/4 MOA clicks and mildot reticles but that is a by product of years of it being done that way when .1 mil clicks weren't available. More and more scope makers are seeing that the shooters are wanting matching knobs and reticles and they are making scopes that way. ll the high end makers do it and even cheaper priced scopes like, Super Snipers, Falcon and Vortex are doing it with others following suit. You just need to look around for them.

Having matching knobs and reticle makes it so that you only need one set of data for both holds and dialing. Also when you see the impact in the scope you can dial on the correction as well as hold it. It's just more versitile to have matching knobs and reticle.

What's your price range for a scope?

In terms of price I was looking at:

Leupold Mark 4 LR/T 8.5-25x50 (1/4MOA w/Mil-Dot Reticle)
Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 (1/4MOA w/MOA Reticle)
Bushnell Elite 6500 4.5-30x50 (1/4MOA w/Mil-Dot Reticle)

 

I got what you need right here.

http://nightforceoptics.com/nightforces ... 22x56.html

 

2 of those three are mixed reticle and knobs. The PST is a good scope and you can get FFP in it also for a couple of hundred dollars more. You might think about that if you plan on using the reticle alot.

 

I got what you need right here.

http://nightforceoptics.com/nightforces ... 22x56.html

Thanks, that might be doable.

 

I would consider the enhanced mildot reticle as well ... that little hash makes hold overs and ranging a lot easier ... for me anyway

 

It is like Ford vs Chevy, table saw vs radial arm saw.

It boils down to "To what are you accustomed?"

I wont use a scope with mill based turrets.
I will use a scope with mill reticle, and just ignore them.

My system is to range the target in yards, and measure the wind speed in mph.
Then I look at the chart, in my handwriting, on the side of my rangefinder.
That chart shows the elevation in moa of each range in 100 yard increments.
I interpolate between 100 yard increments and adjust the elevation.
That chart shows the windage in moa correction for 10 mph with wind cross wise to the barrel.
I then estimate the angle in degrees the wind is off from being cross wise to the barrel.
I then take multiply the cosine of the angle times the wind speed divided by 10 times the windage correction in moa for that range.
I then correct the windage with that moa.

All this is a conditioned response.
I killed 5 deer in 2009 this way, with a bi-pod, between 329 and 510 yards.
2 lung shots, one heart shot, one head shot, and one liver shot.

That conditioned response takes a couple seconds, like Hans Solo flipping switches to go to light speed.

If I were to try it in mills, I would be fumbling around for minutes.

 

You can do the same thing using mils. Mils aren't metric so you can do everything the same way but with a different ranging formula.